DotW2- Does the Song Matter THAT Much?

It's been pretty much only a couple of days since the last one, but I just wanted to post this before I forgot about it

I've noticed an increasingly strong opinion on music choice of a track ever since Dawn Scened and Preservance was featured. It became more apparent in Infinite Regression. Even more, this trend started becoming half of the conversation of a first-year-members' collab Unfinished Business. I'm not trying to say that this behavior is flat-out wrong or that their music choice was great, but where's the line, and how much does music matter in a track?

I sound so official. It scares me. :/

efrazable wrote:It's been pretty much only a couple of days since the last one, but I just wanted to post this before I forgot about it

I've noticed an increasingly strong opinion on music choice of a track ever since Dawn Scened and Preservance was featured.

just a side note, it was "perseverance," not "preservance."
and yeah, I'd sure like to have that question answered myself

Every time I talk about a track I say just one sentence about the song, because there is some effort into deciding if the song is good for your track or not. However, I keep it down to one sentence, as the music is not the feature of the video. I really think it has become slightly ridiculous recently, and I hate it when somebody says "What's the name of that song?" without saying one word about the track.

I think a song can add a lot to a track, I mean with this track, it was simply the best use of music in a track I have ever seen (or heard). I can't see why music contributing to a track would be a problem, people pick songs which fit the track, or make tracks to fit a song. That's how it goes, right?
I think when the music REALLY matters will be in things like featuring/MotW and I don't think people are that inclined to pick another track due to a poor music choice, for example, the ones you gave :b (though I don't think they actually had poor music choice). I guess since that person made that track, they have earned the right to use whatever music they desire and we can't tell them that they're wrong.
I, personally, probably see it differently than most as I don't think I've ever seen a REALLY impressive track with an awful song choice, so I guess I just like all the music people put into tracks.

Wolf_Spirit wrote: I can't see why music contributing to a track would be a problem, people pick songs which fit the track, or make tracks to fit a song. That's how it goes, right?

I agree that music is an important part of the track, in the way that your mouse is important to your computer. It is important, but you don't get on the computer just so you can use your mouse.
I think many people are making more of a deal of the music than is deserved.

To me, placing music that doesn't fit to a certain track is like looking at a watercolor painting while listening to death metal. It makes it incredibly hard to focus on the piece, and the finer details fail to grab your attention as they normally would. This is not to say that you have to perfectly sync every motion to part of the track, as in Jam or EXPLOSIVO, but I would say that a good or bad music choice certainly can make or break the feel that you get while watching one.

My (very, very stupid) rules for song selection:

1) Sync a dubstep drop to a major change in the track style (i.e. sudden highspeed).
2) If there's no change, find a drum'n'bass subgenre that best fits the track.
3) Absolutely NO Pendulum.
4) If Chuggers got away with "Welfare Wednesday" on Aw Shux, then no song is too ridiculous to be synced.

I think everybody is missing the point. The point isn't whether to choose fitting music. The point is, when discussing a track, is it okay discuss music as much as the track itself.

The matter of music in a track is basically, choosing the song that would most likely fit the sync of the flow, plus the editing needs to fit in with this as well. Another thing would be the style of the track would matter, I mean you don't want a dnb song in a flowy manual track. And pretty much the line would be when the song has been overused and is old.

Oh no, not even. While the music is certainly a part of consideration, it's only minor, and shouldn't be poked at when judging. It'd just be a minor pet peeve that I keep to myself while watching.

Stallie wrote:I mean you don't want a dnb song in a flowy manual track.

Opal - Sentient.
What'choo talkin' 'bout Stallie?

roflmaoqwerty wrote:

Stallie wrote:I mean you don't want a dnb song in a flowy manual track.

Opal - Sentient.
What'choo talkin' 'bout Stallie?

Sir that's called a manuquirk.

Stallie wrote:

roflmaoqwerty wrote:

Stallie wrote:I mean you don't want a dnb song in a flowy manual track.

Opal - Sentient.
What'choo talkin' 'bout Stallie?

Sir that's called a manuquirk.

I know it's manuquirk, but it's flowy and it has quite a few manuals, I didn't realise you meant all manuals.
I understand your point, I was just trying to indicate that not all songs of a particular genre either work or don't work with all tracks of a particular style.
Besides, what about liquid drum & bass? Stuff from LTJ Bukem or Photek would definitely work with a flowy track.

roflmaoqwerty wrote:

Stallie wrote:

roflmaoqwerty wrote:

Stallie wrote:I mean you don't want a dnb song in a flowy manual track.

Opal - Sentient.
What'choo talkin' 'bout Stallie?

Sir that's called a manuquirk.

Well it's flowy and it has quite a few manuals, I didn't realise you meant all manuals.
I understand your point, I was just trying to indicate that not all songs of a particular genre either work or don't work with all tracks of a particular style.
Besides, what about liquid drum & bass? Stuff from LTJ Bukem or Photek would definitely work with a flowy track.

It's called liquid for a reason.

shotoku wrote:I think everybody is missing the point. The point isn't whether to choose fitting music. The point is, when discussing a track, is it okay discuss music as much as the track itself.

QFT

Now for my opinion, it's okay for someone to mention the music choice. Everyone who submits a reply to a track thread should either read the whole thread before replying or just write TL;DR in the post or the title (which is kind of stupid IMO unless it's a HUGE wall of text). If someone has the same opinion about the music, you don't have to say it. If you have a different opinion, feel free to share.

Either that, or I'm just stupid