Re: Line Rider Confession Thread

by rabid squirrel Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:46 am

I feel like this community is just as elitist as we always have been except now we are elitist ABOUT being elitist which is frankly worse.

Basically, you can't make a "great" track unless you started playing Line Rider a long time ago and tell people it's a little thing you did for fun.

by efrazable Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:17 am

rabid squirrel wrote:I feel like this community is just as elitist as we always have been except now we are elitist ABOUT being elitist which is frankly worse.

Basically, you can't make a "great" track unless you started playing Line Rider a long time ago and tell people it's a little thing you did for fun.

damn this hits

by Chuggers Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:35 am

rabid squirrel wrote:Basically, you can't make a "great" track unless you started playing Line Rider a long time ago and tell people it's a little thing you did for fun.

the last part is what really gets me going, and people use that shit every time

by **OTDE** Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:59 am

Yikes, guys, now I feel pretty bad about doing my little rant.

I guess sometimes I just feel useless because I can't do half of the crazy things you guys do, no matter how hard I try.

I dunno, maybe the only thing I can really do is appreciate the parts of tracks that I like and be understanding of everything else. I just kind of feel like I've been real petty, and I want to apologize to y'all. So, sorry for being loud and obnoxious about a very specific thing. I won't stop advocating for it, but I'll try and be less of a self-righteous prick about it.

With love <3

by ScrungleBlumpkus Sat Aug 29, 2015 1:20 pm

rabid squirrel wrote:Basically, you can't make a "great" track unless you started playing Line Rider a long time ago and tell people it's a little thing you did for fun.

I saw right from the getgo, even before I posted anything or played again once I came back after a few months of lurking, that this was how it was and that is why I held on to my previous experience with LR so tightly. In essence, I've only been playing for a little bit over a year now, because of how much more into I am than I ever was.

by Fauxfyre Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:23 am

I don't believe anything will reignite a public passion into Line Rider and people are fooling themselves if they think there's a way, especially if they think it's as simple as moving to a more popular streaming service and getting people to watch modern trackmaking to get more community members.

The most active we've been since 2009 at least is when someone made a Reddit post on 4/1/2013 and we had 300 guests visit this site at once, and we were all alone again by the end of the day, perhaps within the hour iirc. We had 1, probably 2 registrations and people who posted tracks, and are they here now?

by **Conundrumer** Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:07 am

i feel like we're collectively living under a rock

by **Rafael** Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:33 am

^ Why?

by anton Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:34 am

Fauxfyre wrote:I don't believe anything will reignite a public passion into Line Rider and people are fooling themselves if they think there's a way, especially if they think it's as simple as moving to a more popular streaming service and getting people to watch modern trackmaking to get more community members.

Getting visits is easy compared to making them stay. C'mon, LR is nostalgic for the Unregistered hypercam 2 and song link generation. (Collects firewood)

Why is it difficult to gain active players? From the prespective of a new player (Starts fire):
Not noob-friendly at all. Obscure game. Uneasily found. Difficult af. Elitist. Just fuck the terminology. High excpectations. (Throws fuel on fire)

It limits the playerbase drastically. However, it seems this community exclusively consists of that one enthusiastic, intelligent, creative, friendly, inventive and passionate percent, only made possible by such filter in the first place(The fire was fictional).

I'd much rather maintain these ways than increase the playerbase at cost of the current mentality. Also, modern trackmaking is more intimidating than intriguing.

by efrazable Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:17 pm

^oh that's awesome @anton

by Chuggers Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:19 pm

Fauxfyre wrote:I don't believe anything will reignite a public passion into Line Rider and people are fooling themselves if they think there's a way, especially if they think it's as simple as moving to a more popular streaming service and getting people to watch modern trackmaking to get more community members.

The most active we've been since 2009 at least is when someone made a Reddit post on 4/1/2013 and we had 300 guests visit this site at once, and we were all alone again by the end of the day, perhaps within the hour iirc. We had 1, probably 2 registrations and people who posted tracks, and are they here now?

theres more to moving sites than possibly gaining a new member or two. the chat on twitch is far better than livestreams could ever hope to be. its what we wanted livestream to be from the start.

by theacp127 Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:34 pm

As far as player base is concerned, I don't think we would necessarily enjoy lots of people joining at a time. Pretty much everyone here has grown to know and accept each other. The larger the player base gets, the harder it will be to keep peace between people. If we want to grow the player base, then LRA and Ride Online are probably the right direction. They will be much easier for people to access and use than having to get the right .swf and flash player version and find the localhost folder.

by Chuggers Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:14 pm

theacp127 wrote:As far as player base is concerned, I don't think we would necessarily enjoy lots of people joining at a time. Pretty much everyone here has grown to know and accept each other. The larger the player base gets, the harder it will be to keep peace between people. If we want to grow the player base, then LRA and Ride Online are probably the right direction. They will be much easier for people to access and use than having to get the right .swf and flash player version and find the localhost folder.

I understand what youre saying by this and its a legitimate point, but you may be overestimating how many people would stay out of those that show up. The switch to twitch isn't just about viewerbase, its about professionalism. livestream.com is a dinosaur website with a flash design that allows no information drawn from it, while twitch has the plugins and the chatbots that we can integrate into the site and the like.

by **Apple** Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:40 pm

Chuggers wrote:livestream.com is a dinosaur website with a flash design...

Hey man. Dinosaurs are freaking awesome.

by Chuggers Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:55 pm

shua wrote:
Chuggers wrote:livestream.com is a dinosaur website with a flash design...

Hey man. Dinosaurs are freaking awesome.

its more like a trilosite

get my punnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

by **Conundrumer** Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:14 am

Chuggers wrote: livestream.com is a dinosaur website with a flash design that allows no information drawn from it, while twitch has the plugins and the chatbots that we can integrate into the site and the like.

THIS.
I can make this stuff! I can integrate live streaming into the LR client. How do you think Twitch Plays Pokemon works? Open APIs are awesome

at the very least the chatbox will be better

also we will soon be finally completely free from flash

by rabid squirrel Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:01 am

Fauxfyre wrote:I don't believe anything will reignite a public passion into Line Rider and people are fooling themselves if they think there's a way, especially if they think it's as simple as moving to a more popular streaming service and getting people to watch modern trackmaking to get more community members.

The most active we've been since 2009 at least is when someone made a Reddit post on 4/1/2013 and we had 300 guests visit this site at once, and we were all alone again by the end of the day, perhaps within the hour iirc. We had 1, probably 2 registrations and people who posted tracks, and are they here now?

Posts like this make me see red. It's all I can do to not fly off the handle.

It's been almost 9 YEARS since LR was invented, WHY DO THESE POSTS KEEP. HAPPENING. EVERY. FUCKING. MONTH.

They do NOTHING except start huge arguments and get everyone in a bad mood.

by Fauxfyre Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:44 pm

Totally unrelated to the above post:

Many people here take Line Rider, We Ride the Lines, and other people's opinions too seriously and is the reason every single time I've taken breaks for a months on end.

It is possible to be an active community member without being a fanatic.

by theacp127 Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:53 pm

Fauxfyre wrote:Totally unrelated to the above post:

Many people here take Line Rider, We Ride the Lines, and other people's opinions too seriously and is the reason every single time I've taken breaks for a months on end.

It is possible to be an active community member without being a fanatic.

The thing is that some people are fanatical about anything they care about a lot. I wouldn't even say "many people" here. It's a small portion, but a few fanatical fans are often louder than the rest so they are more noticed. I think it's best to understand that often people like that can't help it, and to take what they say with a grain of salt and not let it bother you or take it personally. If you don't, it will upset you more than it should.

by anton Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:05 am

I sometimes make outrageous confessions in hope to spark conversations 8)

by Lukking Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:53 am

I enjoy reading this conversation

by Getthim Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:57 am

whenever i'm bored i draw really noobish pencil tracks, like super noob

by **Apple** Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:17 pm

When I first joined this site, I thought that those things that say your name in peoples signatures were real and I thought that for some reason, I was popular. I started replying to all of them in my own signature saying thanks and what not.

I was very wrong. Wasn't popular at all.

by efrazable Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:53 pm

^That's okay, Guest

by Fauxfyre Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:53 pm

efrazable wrote:^That's okay, Guest

I read this first on my phone without logging in and thought you really said Guest as a joke, not USERNAME tag

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