Length of Video:Length of Track ratio

Has anyone ever thought about this? Just watching the livestream a bit, I found that all the really old tracks took up at least 80% of their videos (in fact, Jagged Peak Adventure takes up 100% of the video! No title, no credits!), while everything past about 2008/2009 has their tracks take up about, what, 40% of the video? Not counting the coloured playback as part of it, of course, because that can be accelerated or even just screenshotted if you really want to include it.
I even find myself thinking, "Well, if I want to use this 3 minute song, I've got to make the track about 1:20." Does anyone else think that way, or is it just me?

I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad thing, I just think it's rather weird. Tbh, a lot of it is probably my fault. >_<
I'm not sure about you, but next video I make is going to be at least 70% track.

Well, for me it's like this:

1. Under 15 sec intro
   
2. At least 70 seconds of track
   
3. Transition to colour
   
4. Credits during colour

So that's like 20-25% (?) of titles and stuff (not counting coloured version). Is that too much?

Hedgehogs4Me wrote:while everything past about 2008/2009 has their tracks take up about, what, 40% of the track?.

Hedgehogs4Me wrote:tracks take up about, what, 40% of the track?.

Makes perfect sense, bro

Fixed. Thanks for pointing it out.

I actually have thought about this, and I've tried making videos of tracks that consist of just the track, but I get bored.

The Wadsworth constant applies brilliantly to LR videos.

Skip to 30% of the video to miss the [censored] titles that people think make their video look amazing (hint, they suck - especially ones with weird effects), then at 50% of the way through, leave!

People seem to think that they need to show colour playback at the normal speed of the track, and that they need to show it even if the track isn't all one line type (it's made even more pointless when people do it and there's scenery lines in there masquerading as track). You don't. Cut the crap and make your videos better.

i like watching the coloured playback, but it peeves me off when people use a 30+ second intro just because they want to play the full song, but the song doesn't actually start for ages.

just cut the effin song damnit intros should just be something like "Name presents" 4 seconds ("optional description of project 5 seconds) "Track name" 4 seconds" AT MOST!

what's worse is when the intro has nothing to do with LR whatsoever, like that thing ghosty did on IS. why do i need to see some twit cannoeing for 40 seconds before the track starts? absurd

/rant.

For me: 8-10 second title, 60 second track, 3second/no ending.

Proof:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq5oyJbd2Yc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKy3nhA_0Mw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75IbozbKkFQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A87yTm9j5JU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bI2GA8XMKE
At this point, it's a waste of time to do the rest, it's pretty much all my videos.

I almost never do color recording, and when I do, it's for tracks like Mutiline to show how the lines effect him, and howling to show all blue since I haven't done one in awhile.

Yay for being the exception.

sometimes i stop watching a video when the intro is too long and irrelevant and obnoxious

KillinTime2792 wrote:

what's worse is when the intro has nothing to do with LR whatsoever, like that thing ghosty did on IS. why do i need to see some twit cannoeing for 40 seconds before the track starts? absurd

/rant.

aspi did it, not me oh and its 25 seconds, not 40.

my opinion on this matter is that i really don't mind titles and stuff, one i thing i don't like as much is if theres a scenery track and they don't play the naked track playback. idk why this bothers me but it just does lol

GhostY wrote:

KillinTime2792 wrote:

what's worse is when the intro has nothing to do with LR whatsoever, like that thing ghosty did on IS. why do i need to see some twit cannoeing for 40 seconds before the track starts? absurd

/rant.

aspi did it, not me oh and its 25 seconds, not 40.

w/e, it has nothing to do with LR and shouldn't be in the video. i don't mind someone playing an intro track they made in LR but that's the only excuse i'll take for an extended intro.

KillinTime2792 wrote:

GhostY wrote:

KillinTime2792 wrote:

what's worse is when the intro has nothing to do with LR whatsoever, like that thing ghosty did on IS. why do i need to see some twit cannoeing for 40 seconds before the track starts? absurd

/rant.

aspi did it, not me oh and its 25 seconds, not 40.

w/e, it has nothing to do with LR and shouldn't be in the video. i don't mind someone playing an intro track they made in LR but that's the only excuse i'll take for an extended intro.

i sort of agree with you, but aspi and i had the idea to have some sort of nature type intro(cuz the scenery style is nature and abstract). since the scenery was sort of a new style kind of thing we thought we'd try making a more unique intro. but yeah i see what you mean

<15 second intro (I have never broken this rule before besides the editing that chaomocha suggested, although I will in a planned future track for a reason)
~90 seconds track
(sometimes alt endings)
Color playback
(Song/Inspirations)

That's how my videos generally go, y'all.

See, the colour playback is part of what I'm talking about. When did it become normal to make the colour playback be the same speed as the regular playback, so that <50% of the video is the first playback?

I don't even see why you need it in the first place. If tracks were made to be shown in colour, they'd be in colour when you pressed play.

^ I agree with this, although sometimes it is nice if you want to prove something is all blue with style.

i vote for naked tracks they should just be played in color the first time.

My general rule is that the track should take up at least half the video - and 2/3 or 3/4 if it's not a giant epic project.

Not gonna lie, I enjoy title sequences - and I watch them if they're under 30 seconds, and if I'm reasonably sure the track will be a good one. True, some are stupidly long, and some are silly in what is actually in the title sequence, but a title sequence of about 5-15 seconds is a great setup for a track IMHO.

I think people stretch credits too long, but I think it's cool to have credits over a sped-up color replay. it always bugs me when I want to see a color replay but can't, or when I want to know stuff that should be in the credits but they're not there. If the track was really excellent I usually watch the color and credits. But there's no need to play the color at full speed - I rarely watch it if it's not sped up at least 2x or so. The exception is if you've created a great moment at the end of the track and don't want to ruin it with color replay (see No One Dreams Anyway)

So, I think Inu's editing is typically too short and would like to see credits/brief sped-up color replay, I think Incito's intro is silly and credits and replay are too long, but I do usually like to replay, credits, and a good, simple, elegant title sequence.

EDIT: about playing tracks in color the first time... meh, that's not how it's meant to look. That's not really the track IMHO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkGbWdfSjBw&feature=channel

Thats my favorite editing, evar

rabid squirrel wrote:
So, I think Inu's editing is typically too short and would like to see credits/brief sped-up color replay, I think Incito's intro is silly and credits and replay are too long, but I do usually like to replay, credits, and a good, simple, elegant title sequence.

I respect that opinion. I personally think that the color recording takes away from the mood of the track. (Unless it's a gimmick track)

Hedgehogs4Me wrote:See, the colour playback is part of what I'm talking about. When did it become normal to make the colour playback be the same speed as the regular playback, so that <50% of the video is the first playback?

I think that Z_N Freak started the trend of showing color playback, tbh. Before tracks like LOVE, EVOL, Serenade, Virtuous Light, ELITE, etc, people never really showed it.

It's just something to add so that you can play a lot more of the song, and you can see the track from a different perspective (I guess....)

In all honesty, I'm not at all bothered by any of it. I watch a video to the end every time. (Unless it's this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx_2W1vlTFw)

I thought raf's viewpoint was:
46 seconds of titles
fling
10 second drop
56 second long track

You can't really hate on Anom's beautiful WMM intros. Actually he and WTB were the one's to really hit the nail on the head. Simplicity is best and it certainly works for them.
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^ Pure does it quite nicely as well.