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Post by rabid squirrel Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:31 am

Here I will have information about upcoming polls and how the seeding will be done, when they will be posted, official records, and etc. I'll be running this all myself again this summer.

Please ask if you have any questions or comments! I'm trying to be as transparent as possible about how this all will work. Also, please don't baww about double posts. This one is the main post which I will change as time goes on, and in the rest of the thread I will post updates.

The Big Picture

Our method for running ToCC and ToC3 went very well, so we will do that same method here again.

The big idea is to start out with several large, randomly seeded, multiple choice polls and seed the entries for the rest of the tournament based off of the results of that poll. We will use a formula that incorporates both percentage of votes and number of votes received in each large poll to rank the tracks accurately (Because different polls will have different amounts of voters and different numbers of votes). We will also re-seed just a tad bit after each round to account for slightly inaccurately seeded tracks and other factors (like voters changing their minds lol)

Through seeding, we want to roughly pit the best track against the worst, and the second, best against the second, worst, and so on, (to keep large confrontations form happening early on) and we use these polls to roughly determine which ones are "best" and "worst". They we go to polls of six or seven, and once we get to the Thrilling Thirty-Two we have polls of four, eliminating two. The sweet sixteen will then be decided with good old-fashioned one-on-ones down to the end. Smile

ROUND 1

- 8 multiple-choice polls of 12 videos each
- 4 videos eliminated for each poll
- Narrowed down from 96 to 64 videos (cut out 1/3)
- Each poll will be open for 7 days, one posted every day
- People can vote for up to 8 videos

These will be large polls in order to make sure lots of good tracks don't end up in one poll, so they will be open for one week each, one per day. Starting tomorrow, July 2, and ending on July 16.

Seedings based off of randomized list:
Spoiler:
ROUND 2

- 8 multiple-choice polls of 8 videos each
- 4 videos eliminated for each poll
- Narrowed down from 64 to 32 videos (cut out 1/2)
- Each poll will be open for 7 days, one will be posted every day
- People can vote for up to 4 videos

They will be open for one week each, one per day. Starting tomorrow, July 16, and ending on July 30.

Rough rankings based on percentages and votes from round 1 (points = percent*2 + votes):
Spoiler:
Seedings based on these Rankings (remember, 4 videos advance):
Spoiler:
ROUND 3 (thrilling thirty two!)

- 8 multiple-choice polls of 4 videos each
- 2 videos eliminated for each poll
- Narrowed down from 32 to 16 videos (cut out 1/2)
- Each poll will be open for 7 days, one will be posted every day
- People can vote for one or two videos

They will be open for one week each, one per day. Starting on August 4th, and ending on August 19th

Rough rankings based on percentages and votes from round 1 (points = percent*2 + votes) and round #2 (+ percent + votes):
Spoiler:
Seedings based on these rankings (remember, 2 videos advance):
Spoiler:

ROUND 4 (sweet sixteen!)

- 8 multiple-choice polls of 2 videos each
- 1 video eliminated for each poll
- Narrowed down from 16 to 8 videos (cut out 1/2)
- Each poll will be open for 7 days, one will be posted every day
- People choose one video to vote for

They will be open for one week each, one per day. Starting on August 18th, and ending on September 1st

Rough rankings based on percentages and votes from round 1 (points = percent*2 + votes), round #2 (+ percent + votes) and round #3 (+ percent + votes):
Spoiler:
Seedings based on these rankings:
Spoiler:
Semifinals (elite eight!)

- 4 multiple-choice polls of 2 videos each
- 1 video eliminated for each poll
- Narrowed down from 8 to 4 videos (cut out 1/2)
- Each poll will be open for 7 days, one will be posted every day
- People choose one video to vote for

They will be open for one week each, one per day. Starting on September 1st, and ending on September 11th

Rough rankings based on percentages and votes from round 1 (points = percent*2 + votes), round #2 (+ percent + votes), round #3 (+ percent + votes), and round 4 (+ percent + votes):
Spoiler:
Seedings based on these rankings:
Spoiler:
Finals (final four!)

- 2 multiple-choice polls of 2 videos each
- 1 video eliminated for each poll
- Narrowed down from 4 to 2 videos
- Each poll will be open for 7 days, one will be posted every day
- People choose one video to vote for

They will be open for one week each, one per day. Starting on September 12th and ending on September 20th

Rough rankings based on percentages and votes from round 1 (points = percent*2 + votes), round #2 (+ percent + votes), round #3 (+ percent + votes), round 4 (+ percent + votes), and round 5 (+ percent + votes):
Spoiler:
Seedings based on these rankings:
Spoiler:


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Post by TheRevTastic Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:15 pm

If you need ToCC trophies again I still have the ones I made before that were used, if you need new ones just say.
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Post by rabid squirrel Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:23 pm

^ that would be great, but this goes in the general discussion thread.
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Post by rabid squirrel Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:46 am

ROUND 1

- 8 multiple-choice polls of 12 videos each
- 4 videos eliminated for each poll
- Narrowed down from 96 to 64 videos (cut out 1/3)
- Each poll will be open for 7 days, one posted every day.
- People can vote for up to 8 videos

These will be large polls in order to make sure lots of good tracks don't end up in one poll, so they will be open for one week each, one per day. Starting tomorrow, July 2, and ending on July 16.

Seedings (based off of randomized list):
Spoiler:


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Post by Rafael Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:26 am

I see IS and EoLR are in the same poll, isn't that going to cause problems in the semifinals? (As I expect them to make it to there at least)
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Post by rabid squirrel Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:34 am

Rafael wrote:I see IS and EoLR are in the same poll, isn't that going to cause problems in the semifinals? (As I expect them to make it to there at least)
like I said for ToC3 and above in the OP, they will be ranked according the the votes and percentage they get in this round and later rounds, and then they will be re-seeded according to their ranking.
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Post by Rafael Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:03 am

Oh yeah, I forgot about that :P Nvm then ^^

EDIT: Mysteria 2 = Neophyte scened, but they are both in a poll.
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Post by rabid squirrel Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:41 pm

Rafael wrote:Mysteria 2 = Neophyte scened, but they are both in a poll.
you were the one who said we should include Neophyte :P

I ended up using basically all your yesses because it worked out to 96 perfectly
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Post by Rafael Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:48 pm

Yeah I know, I didn't really realize Mysteria 2 = Neophyte scened then xD
Oh well it's not really a problem.
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Post by captain_cornflakes Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:55 pm

Don't bother holding a spot for me, I have no idea where Cammy is. :facepalm:
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Post by rabid squirrel Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:17 pm

ok, I'll just use prelude when I make the poll tomorrow
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Post by CamQuartr Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:29 pm

a1c4s8 wrote:Don't bother holding a spot for me, I have no idea where Cammy is. :facepalm:

say what?

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Post by captain_cornflakes Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:55 pm

I guess that a spot was held for me, but i have no idea where one of the people is on the collab i would've entered. :facepalm:
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Post by Inukaza Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:00 pm

Rabid, It would seam that in seed poll #5, it was forgotten That I also took part in the making of intuition. If you could edit that. Smile

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Post by rabid squirrel Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:53 am

^ fixed
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Post by SethComposerGuy Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:34 pm

I just realized rain of life in poll 7 has the wrong link. it should be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ4p-_Pt7fM
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Post by rabid squirrel Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:55 pm

ack, fixed
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Post by rabid squirrel Sat Jul 16, 2011 3:34 pm

ROUND 2

- 8 multiple-choice polls of 8 videos each
- 4 videos eliminated for each poll
- Narrowed down from 64 to 32 videos (cut out 1/2)
- Each poll will be open for 7 days, one will be posted every day
- People can vote for up to 4 videos

They will be open for one week each, one per day. Starting tomorrow, July 16, and ending on July 30.

Rough rankings based on percentages and votes from round 1 (points = percent*2 + votes):
Spoiler:
Seedings based on these Rankings (remember, 4 videos advance):
Spoiler:


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Post by SethComposerGuy Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:30 pm

using the points of each track under the rough rankings spoiler, I decided to calculate the number of points each person would earn based on every track they participated in.

after round 1 here are the results:
Spoiler:
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Post by Se7eN Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:38 pm

I was just thinking that there were a few guys who were killing this tournament. xD

Thanks a lot, SCG!

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Post by rabid squirrel Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:50 pm

SCG, that's cool but I hope you do it again at the end of the tournament with the final points since they'll be more accurate :P
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Post by SethComposerGuy Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:11 am

I was actually thinking of adding the points to what I have now after each round ends Smile

I'll just need to subtract the difference in points between each round and the previous round to figure out what points each track gets per round instead of the total of all previous rounds.

hope that makes sense. Very Happy

edit: I'm just going to use this formula, percent + votes, this round (which is what I suspect you will use looking at the toc3 thread) to figure out the round specific points each track gets that make it through as the polls close. From there I'll add those points to the people who made those tracks that go on to round 3. finally once the last poll in the round closes and I distribute the final points and post the new, updated results here.
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Post by efrazable Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:05 am

The comment below mine will announce round 3. I KNOW IT.
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Post by captain_cornflakes Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:44 am

Intercepted. Hehe
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Post by efrazable Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:09 pm

Nooooooooo! D:
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