Round #1 - Poll #1

Vote for up to eight videos!

Three of these will be eliminated, the rest will move on to round 2!

Entries:

1. Joy of Motion
   
2. Path of Light
   
3. Evolution
   
4. Mojo
   
5. Vision
   
6. Blue Champion
   
7. The Book of Revelation
   
8. Inhibitions
   
9. Continental
   
10. Catalyst
    
11. Tapeworm
    
12. High Notions 2
    

Rules:
- Watch all tracks before voting (if you've seen them before, a re-watch is recommended but not required)
- Please don't vote for yourself
- No begging/bribing/duping or otherwise cheating
- We will not change your vote after you cast it - make sure it's accurate

Embedded videos:

Spoiler:

Once again I'd like to say: Get your old LR friends to vote, and always vote yourself! We need everyone's support to make this competition as valid as possible

This may be round 1 but this poll is already difficult >_>

*WARNING I HAVE STRONG OPINIONS AND AM IN A BAD MOOD READ AT YOUR OWN RISK*

I'm a little depressed that these are considered some of our best tracks. There's a huge amount of effort here, but none of these tracks have anything more to say besides:
- "look how awesome I am at quirk"
- "look how much detailed line art I can draw"
- "woohoo this is fun"
I ended up voting mostly for the "woohoo this is fun" tracks.

Vision - This track still really feels put together well. Only track that really made me feel good while watching it, maybe just because of memories.

Mojo - just a guy having fun, doing what he does, and it's really good because he's been doing it for a long time.

Tapeworm - experimentation with a new style, and in the process there are some really fun moments.

Catalyst - fun with manuals. feels somewhat accessible.

Continental - Suffers from ADHD and look-how-good-I-am-at-art syndrome but also felt like LRG was having fun, somewhere in there. Can't believe this is the only scenery track I'm voting for, but BoR is all about the epic monuments that are completely unrelated to the track, and Evolution is all about drawing as many lines as possible. Really sad these are considered some of the best scenery tracks.

Blue Champion - unfinished but it did have a good vision of what it was trying to accomplish.

Joy of Motion - maybe I'm wrong but this track felt like maybe kramwood was having more fun versus trying to prove something (like the other video in this poll)

joy of motion is imo krams best track, as in all things considered

i wish path of light didnt get voted out this round, but even i didnt vote for it

WARNING
"Rating" based solely on my opinion:
Im being very harsh when rating these tracks so please dont start an argument if i rated your track not as highly as you'd like
I seperated my rating into 4 parts since i think they cover the most inportant aspects. Popularity/Viewcount or the amount of hours worked are aspects i can not rate. Lemme explain the rating: 5/10 means +-0. For example a track with a 5/10 Influentiality did nothing well in particular but also didn't just copy other tracks (including their own)/styles. A track with a 10/10 Influentiality reinvented the way people play/view line rider. For example Integration/Funspiration...

Let's begin

Joy of Motion:
Influentiality at it's time: 6/10
Creativity: 7/10
Presentation (Music/editing/vibe): 8/10
Personal preference: 7/10
Score: 28
Comment: Amazed me when i first saw it. Powerful wells properly used
Path of Light:
Influentialy at It's time: 7/10
Creativity: 5/10
Presentation: 9/10
Personal preference: 9/10
Score: 30
Comment: One of my personal favourites. Great flow, Great music, Great Video
Evolution
Influentialy at It's time: 9/10
Creativity: 7/10
Presentation: 7/10
Personal preference: 5/10
Score: 28
Comment: I admire the work put into it. Very much detail. Too much to appreciate fully
Mojo
Influentialy at It's time: 4/10
Creativity: 9/10
Presentation: 6/10
Personal preference: 10/10
Score: 29
Comment: Also one of my favourites. Fav anomaly track along with Integration. A bit better than his other tracks
Vision
Influentialy at It's time: 9/10
Creativity: 7/10
Presentation: 8/10
Personal preference: 6/10
Score: 30
Comment: Didnt really got why this track was so hyped. Good music and presentation though. Not my fav from hedge
Blue Champion
Influentialy at It's time: 8/10
Creativity: 6/10
Presentation: 5/10
Personal preference: 5/10
Score: 24
Comment: Also didnt get why this is so highly rated. Some blue manuals. Some Als flings. Everything seems to fit together well though
The Book of Revelation
Influentialy at It's time: 5/10
Creativity: 6/10
Presentation: 8/10
Personal preference: 8/10
Score:27
Comment: Like the presentation. Scenery was not the best. Cool ending monument/overall scenery style
Inhibitions
Influentialy at It's time: 8/10
Creativity: 8/10
Presentation: 6/10
Personal preference: 7/10
Score: 29
Comment: I liked this more after i watched it a few times. Realized why this is so influential. Cool music/synch
Continental
Influentialy at It's time: 6/10
Creativity: 7/10
Presentation: 8/10
Personal preference: 6/10
Score: 27
Comment: Pretty good scenery. Scenery themes are a bit disconnected.
Catalyst
Influentialy at It's time: 4/10
Creativity: 6/10
Presentation: 5/10
Personal preference: 5/10
Score: 20
Comment: Generic manual track with generic music
Tapeworm
Influentialy at It's time: 6/10
Creativity: 7/10
Presentation: 7/10
Personal preference: 7/10
Score: 27
Comment: Took Integrations concept and made a cool track. Not neccessarily better than Integration
High notions 2
Influentialy at It's time: 5/10
Creativity: 6/10
Presentation: 4/10
Personal preference: 5/10
Score:20
Comment: More of the same. I like Joy of motion better. Music doesn't fit very well

Sorry for long post here is a potato

Evolution
BC
Vision
Inhibitions
Catalyst

I have one thing to say to the entire community.
If a track is made to be fucking impressive, then please vote on the merit of whether or not it was fucking impressive. If a track is supposed to be aesthetically mindblowing, please vote on whether or not it was mindblowing. If a track was made to have fun, please vote as to whether or not it appeared he was having fun. If it's about creativity, please vote on the creative aspect. If a track is a music sync, please by all means vote your opinion on the quality of the sync.

EVERYBODY who makes tracks gets disappointed when people don't vote on a quirk because "it just looks like that guy was saying 'look what I can do'" or when people don't vote on a scenery track because "it just looks like he was trying to see how many lines he could draw"

Please try to look at tracks on the basis of the purpose from the author, not the basis of the purpose of your own reason to play LineRider. It's like not voting for Hillary Clinton because her dick isn't long enough. That's not a valid reason, and it's bullshit that makes everybody upset.

That being said, I voted mostly for the scenery tracks honestly because they're fucking fantastically well done and most of this quirk (MOST, I say) is sub-par compared to what's come out in recent years.

Really can't wait for more polls!

Dapianokid wrote:If a track is made to be fucking impressive, then please vote on the merit of whether or not it was fucking impressive. If a track is supposed to be aesthetically mindblowing, please vote on whether or not it was mindblowing. If a track was made to have fun, please vote as to whether or not it appeared he was having fun. If it's about creativity, please vote on the creative aspect. If a track is a music sync, please by all means vote your opinion on the quality of the sync.

Please don't tell me how to vote. I would like to vote based on how much I enjoyed a track, not on how proud the creator was of it.

Dapianokid wrote:EVERYBODY who makes tracks gets disappointed when people don't vote on a quirk because "it just looks like that guy was saying 'look what I can do'" or when people don't vote on a scenery track because "it just looks like he was trying to see how many lines he could draw"

Everybody? you sure?

Dapianokid wrote:Please try to look at tracks on the basis of the purpose from the author, not the basis of the purpose of your own reason to play LineRider. It's like not voting for Hillary Clinton because her dick isn't long enough. That's not a valid reason, and it's bullshit that makes everybody upset.

That is a gross analogy and doesn't follow at all. Hillary's main goal in running for office is to have a giant dick?

It's more like, (hypothetically here) Hillary Clinton focuses on gun control as her main issue and doesn't really care about unemployment, and then you don't vote for Hillary Clinton because she didn't really care about unemployment because she was focusing on gun control. Totally valid. Just like me not voting for a quirk because the author's goals (e.g. make some mindblowingly intense quirk) didn't mesh with what I appreciate in a track (e.g. accessibility)

Dapianokid wrote:I have one thing to say to the entire community.
If a track is made to be fucking impressive, then please vote on the merit of whether or not it was fucking impressive. If a track is supposed to be aesthetically mindblowing, please vote on whether or not it was mindblowing. If a track was made to have fun, please vote as to whether or not it appeared he was having fun. If it's about creativity, please vote on the creative aspect. If a track is a music sync, please by all means vote your opinion on the quality of the sync.

EVERYBODY who makes tracks gets disappointed when people don't vote on a quirk because "it just looks like that guy was saying 'look what I can do'" or when people don't vote on a scenery track because "it just looks like he was trying to see how many lines he could draw"

Please try to look at tracks on the basis of the purpose from the author, not the basis of the purpose of your own reason to play LineRider. It's like not voting for Hillary Clinton because her dick isn't long enough. That's not a valid reason, and it's bullshit that makes everybody upset.

nope, sounds like too much work. I'm just going to vote on the tracks that give me the highest entertainment value.

rabid squirrel wrote:

Dapianokid wrote:If a track is made to be fucking impressive, then please vote on the merit of whether or not it was fucking impressive. If a track is supposed to be aesthetically mindblowing, please vote on whether or not it was mindblowing. If a track was made to have fun, please vote as to whether or not it appeared he was having fun. If it's about creativity, please vote on the creative aspect. If a track is a music sync, please by all means vote your opinion on the quality of the sync.

Please don't tell me how to vote. I would like to vote based on how much I enjoyed a track, not on how proud the creator was of it.

I never told you how to vote, Rabid. I asked nicely.

rabid squirrel wrote:

Dapianokid wrote:EVERYBODY who makes tracks gets disappointed when people don't vote on a quirk because "it just looks like that guy was saying 'look what I can do'" or when people don't vote on a scenery track because "it just looks like he was trying to see how many lines he could draw"

Everybody? you sure?

If I downplay a track of yours for lacking skill at quirk, you'd get upset.
Let me know when you can come up with a counterexample that isn't an ad hominem like the one you presented in the next paragraph you wrote.

rabid squirrel wrote:

Dapianokid wrote:Please try to look at tracks on the basis of the purpose from the author, not the basis of the purpose of your own reason to play LineRider. It's like not voting for Hillary Clinton because her dick isn't long enough. That's not a valid reason, and it's bullshit that makes everybody upset.

That is a gross analogy and doesn't follow at all. Hillary's main goal in running for office is to have a giant dick?

It's more like, (hypothetically here) Hillary Clinton focuses on gun control as her main issue and doesn't really care about unemployment, and then you don't vote for Hillary Clinton because she didn't really care about unemployment because she was focusing on gun control. Totally valid. Just like me not voting for a quirk because the author's goals (e.g. make some mindblowingly intense quirk) didn't mesh with what I appreciate in a track (e.g. accessibility)

Gross analogies are typically used to get the attention of the reader. Then again, so are ad homini. Whether or not the analogy is gross is beside the point. In defense of yourself (against a threat from where I do not know you perceived), you asked if Hillary's main goal in running for office was to have a giant dick. Try as I might, I didn't get that from my clearly worded paragraph. I will restate, however: Hillary isn't even a male, so choosing not to vote on the basis of something she doesn't even fit under the category of is outrageous (gross?)
I find it outrageous when people vote without keeping purpose in mind. Then again, I'm not the admin, so I don't get to voice that without a fight.
In that post, my point was to appeal to the humanity in the trackmakers and attempt to help keep peace and treat others the way they want to be treated. I was simply hoping to revitalize the spirit of things before the voting became a shitstorm. I see there is no hope for that.

I don't understand how people can get all offended if someone doesn't want to vote the way they do in competitions like this. Competitions like this, when open to the public, become much more of a popularity contest and less a skill based contest. If you want a skill based contest, do it like they do in the Olympics, gather 3 or 4 different people who are experts at linerider, and judge the tracks based on set criteria.

To put it bluntly, everyone has their own idea of what constitutes a quality track, and that's the way it should be for this competition. if you get all offended because the votes don't go the way you expect, too bad, so sad. Go cry in a corner. We (I) don't want to hear it.

Will the groups be shuffled again after round 1?

^ Jup, there will be some reseeding to make sure the polls for round 2 aren't identical!

Dapianokid wrote:If I downplay a track of yours for lacking skill at quirk, you'd get upset.

Sure as hell wouldn't write out a long ass post in the poll thread about how people should vote differently. Might mention that it saddened me but I wouldn't "nicely ask" people to vote for me because my goals were different than what they find enjoyable in a track.

Dapianokid wrote:Let me know when you can come up with a counterexample that isn't an ad hominem like the one you presented in the next paragraph you wrote.

Ad hominem means I personally attacked you. Pretty sure I didn't do anything of the sort. I gave you an example of how I made my decision that did not include any personal attacks on dap (unless you consider implying you were trying to "make mindblowing quirk" to be a personal attack...)

Dapianokid wrote:I'm not the admin, so I don't get to voice that without a fight.

Sorry, what does me being an admin have anything to do with this discussion? Did you misinterpret my request to not tell me how to vote as a threat? If so, that was not remotely the intention.

Dapianokid wrote:my point was to appeal to the humanity in the trackmakers and attempt to help keep peace and treat others the way they want to be treated.

If you want peace, don't tell people they should vote the way you want them to. Or even ask nicely. Let people vote how they want to vote. That's literally all I'm trying to argue for here. basically what SCG said above me:

SethComposerGuy wrote:To put it bluntly, everyone has their own idea of what constitutes a quality track, and that's the way it should be for this competition. if you get all offended because the votes don't go the way you expect, too bad, so sad. Go cry in a corner. We (I) don't want to hear it.

I like this whole ToL thing.
I voted for the following:
Joy of motion - I liked it
Evolution - Quite refreshing
Vision - This was good
Blue champion - Cool indeed
The book of revelation - looks nice
inhibitions - neat stuff
High notions 2 - I enjoyed it

I never asked anybody to vote for me, but since apparently it's not okay to nicely ask (because people assume that if you ask for something that you're offended), I'll forget about it.
I can be a bit bewildered at a community without being even a little bit offended. But, we shouldn't dare take responsibility for being offended. Thank you for asking me nicely not to ask nicely for things.
Remember, internet, don't have an opinion because nobody wants to hear it (which is ironic, considering the opinion-based nature of this whole event )

^ big difference between expressing an opinion on a work of art, and expressing an opinion on how everyone should evaluate a work of art (especially when you frame it as "please vote the way I would like you to vote")

^You're completely right, and as Seth said, nobody wants to be told what to do. If you don't want to hear it, I suppose it's my responsibility to let people know that they're reading at their own risk, just as you've done with your opinions. Thank you for your insight.

shiii, so many polls, so many tracks I want to watch.
And I don't want to vote without re-watching everything to be honest, that's the best part of the voting.

If I get it correctly, since this was posted on the 19th, it will close on the 24th right? I'm hoping I'll find time to watch everything tonight. SO LITTLE TIME

^ Yeah, they're open for 5 days.

Vision, Continental, Evo, Revelation, and HN2.

JoM, Mojo, Vision.

I feel a lot of tracks don't age well. They become rather meeeh, it was cool at the time. Even Vison (p.s. lukking, it was hyped because it opened people up to the idea of using two contact points at the same time. This was a completely new concept at the time for most people and it featured many new tricks).

Anyhow, I have to note that I'd like to vote for Inhibitions, except... WORST song choice EVER. Seriously. Sorry dap

If I compare Vison (imo best of the bunch, but not by much) to this is LOVE, I'd rate Vision a 6/10. It's okay, but it just doesn't age. This is LOVE ages like a fine wine.

You can feel a lot of hate in this thread
my bad guys <3

HERE WE GO TIME TO PLAY CATCHUP
I'm gonna say which I would vote for, regardless of the poll availability.
WARNING: I, TOO, HAVE STRONG OPINIONS.

JOY OF MOTION
This has a lot of really fantastic moments! I like a lot of the grolling and integration. This is easily one of kramwood's best tracks, because the motion feels very freeing. It's a good track, but I wish he had ended it maybe a little less awkwardly? I dunno, kram's editing has always felt a little off-putting to me. Either way, it's powerful and doesn't get too stale.

PATH OF LIGHT
This one hasn't really aged well for me. It's fast, but it's also really basic, and I just kind of walked away from it with a very "meh" feeling. I dunno, I feel like I remember this more fondly than I felt when I watched it again. I guess the nostalgia glasses came off? Either way, this isn't a quirk that has stood the test of time.

EVOLUTION
It's so good! But it ends really suddenly. I find myself wishing there was more, and that it was presented like the last half of this track. I often show this to people when I want them to be impressed by scenery, but looking at this with fresh eyes really showcases how much better the second half is, in my eyes. Still altogether much too short.

MOJO
OOH BABY. This one is still a gem, and it makes me so happy. Anomaly has this masterful mix of freedom and control that lines up SO perfectly in the funkadelic zone. Man. I'm amazed this one is still such a treat to watch. Anomaly's style is just so rare and unique. God, I'm gushing over this one. My favorite so far.

VISION
This is a somewhat older quirk that I've really begun to appreciate. One of the things that Hedge does really, really well is structure: it feels like Hedge is deliberately laying out the framework for later recycles, and when they happen, it's glorious. This also sort of established something that sheldon would build on in V3: HOLDING OUT MOMENTS. Hedge also really knew how to milk a trick for allllll of its value.

BLUE CHAMPION
Goodness me, what a beautiful work. The manuals and integration are so well-executed (and really, really, smooth, I might add), but surprisingly enough, it was the quirk that sold it for me. It really showed that IGGB knew how to change intensity on a dime. Wish it had stopped at a better point, but wow, this one was quite good.

BOOK OF REVELATIONS
I ADORE the mountains and final monument. I just wish it was more of that. Nirobi had these moments of utter brilliance, but it was a lot of work to make them. Just wish there was more of it, ya know? I also wish the Dev track had been more open-- woulda fit the theme better. In short: more angels and demons, less rocks. Also, man, that Kamelot takes me back.

INHIBITIONS
I'm so tired of electro-swing. This track is a good first foray by Dap into syncing. I'm so tired of electro-swing. I wish in parts it was better-synced, but I can also tell a lot of it is powerful af and Dap didn't really have "control" in the sense the Leo did at that point. I'm so tired of electro swing. I'd like to see dap do a foray into Ram-Tzu styled XY. And yes, I'm still tired of electro-swing.

CONTINENTAL
Ooh, memories. One of the first scenery vids I watched (like, this and BTTW, I think) and it still does a lot of things right. That being said, Gjert had TERRIBLE monument placement. Like, dragonWHOOSHdragonWHOOSHdragonWHOOSHstall is not a good way to sequence things. Art quality still holds up somewhat well, though!

CATALYST
SO smooth. One of my favorite manual tracks for its start. I don't like the highspeed as much as the rest, but you can see a really neat level of control from Bing here. I'm a fan of parts of this, but not others. Really sort of a fragmented track for me. Love the music, too.

TAPEWORM
Fun idea. I just wish it didn't feel like it got more "meh" as it went along. I think I like the idea of this track more than I like the track itself. Lots of neat parts, though, and quite enjoyable overall!

HIGH NOTIONS 2: MYBAR
Powerful. That's the only thing I can say to describe it. It feels faceless, like its only defining characteristic was power. Not a lot to say that I haven't already said.

TRACKS I WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR IF I WASN'T A DINGUS:
Joy of Motion
Mojo
Vision
Blue Champion
Continental

Path of Light, Mojo and The Book of Revelation are eliminated!