Nonfakie 3rd Pos. Foot well

Is this what it's supposed to look like? I'm trying to get a chain of 'em and it's almost impossible to tell if I'm doing them right at these speeds. Also, does anyone have any evidence or videos of them for me to learn from? I've never even seen one of these done before, but I've heard from Leo that they're hard as hell.



Thanks.

looks swat

It's perfect.

I've done some. let me find it: (scrambles around looking in his videos)

i did an every frame chain of it at 1:14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHVZBwo1O7c

^Thanks Splash

I managed to make a chain of them and got it to roll. ^^

isnt that 2nd position?
Looks cool tho

it's def 2nd pos, you can't do 3rd pos without fakie because it's instant death.

KillinTime2792 wrote:it's def 2nd pos, you can't do 3rd pos without fakie because it's instant death.

Nothing is ABSOLUTELY impossible -- it just has to be done a different way to work.

the only way 3rd pos non fakie footwells would work is if you got linerider off the sled with a strong nose gwell. otherwise it's just 2nd pos.

It's possible because no one knows for sure. It's like Schrödinger's cat but without all that stupidity.

So I'd say it's possible until someone comes up with absolute, what-I-say-can't-be-wrong proof of it not being possible.

Rapto wrote:isnt that 2nd position?
Looks cool tho

KillinTime2792 wrote:it's def 2nd pos, you can't do 3rd pos without fakie because it's instant death.

KillinTime2792 wrote:the only way 3rd pos non fakie footwells would work is if you got linerider off the sled with a strong nose gwell. otherwise it's just 2nd pos.

2nd pos. is where the foot is in the nose of the sled. Pretty sure this is 3rd pos nonfakie. =/

Well, i'm not sure if i'm right, but here's my guess on this. If a line affects the rider's foot to the top of the sled, that line would be a 3rd position LINE , but 3rd position does not have to be achieved to be affected by the 3rd position LINE. I would say .boo is right, but i guess i understand how killin time interpreted it.

~boo wrote:2nd pos. is where the foot is in the nose of the sled.

yeah like that, in the nose of the sled.

way I've seen it, 1st poss=under sled 2nd pos= top of the sled 3rd pos=over the sled.

note OVER the sled has not been achieved and cannot be achieved non-fakie because moving the foot up there is beyond the snap point that kills him.

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I give up. ._. Can we just agree that it's a 2nd-and-a-half-pos. foot well?

It doesn't matter anyways, I made this thread because I didn't know how to do this trick, but now I've found out how by help from Leo and Splash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFRl2xs4ZsY

0:15, you can see that his foot is in the middle of the sled, that is a 2nd position foot fling.

linerage wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFRl2xs4ZsY

0:15, you can see that his foot is in the middle of the sled, that is a 2nd position foot fling.

i think you need to look a little closer at that fling

o_o Why? I made the track... I'm pretty sure what it'll look like XDD And that fling pushes his foot foward, not to the top, so yeah... And there's way more examples than just this. And kramwood himself said it was a 2nd position food fling.

If its not a third pos. well, then its a "top" 2nd pos. well.

And yes its possible nubs lol. the "Third position" for the foot is pulling it upwards. It may look like a 2nd pos, but when Bosh is near parallel to the well and still pulls the foot upwards without fakie, it would be a 3rd pos.

really i wish people would stop thinking that 3rd pos. foot = fakie foot. it just means that it pulls it upward, which USUALLY requires fakie...

Spoiler:

^ its not in fakie, and pulls the foot upwards; not forward, or downward.

Its possible. :|

linerage wrote:o_o Why? I made the track... I'm pretty sure what it'll look like XDD And that fling pushes his foot foward, not to the top, so yeah... And there's way more examples than just this. And kramwood himself said it was a 2nd position food fling.

for starters the foot is not in the middle of the sled it's in the top of the sled.

second i know it pulls it forward, if it pulled to the top he'd probably die unless you stabilised his foot down as an opposing fling.
PROBABLY.

OKAY OKAY, the foot is parallel to the sled, unlike fakies, howboutthat XD since the starting or pelvis of bosh is a bit on top of the sled than in the middle.

And if you stabilize his foot down it would become an alt fling. As seen on splash's screenie, the rider's foot is parallel to the sled, and the foot fling is affecting him going up (Or down in his situation) So if it's a 2nd position food fling, the line would kill him most likely since bosh is moving to the ----->, while the line is like a wall ------> III

not as alt fling, as opposing fling.

there is a difference.

KillinTime2792 wrote:way I've seen it, 1st poss=under sled 2nd pos= top of the sled 3rd pos=over the sled.

That's like saying you think a weak spidey fling looks like a nose fling because you can't tell. It isn't about position, it's about what is getting pulled. If he is in non fakie, and the foot gets pulled upward (like Splash said), it's 3rd pos. The foot being inside the sled has nothing to do with it. Stop acting like you know everything please.

i've called them that because they're the 3 levels the foot will naturally sit in if you leave it alone. in between isn't a "position" otherwise we'd have "evolving 227th-342nd pos foot fling" and that's just stupid.

No we wouldn't? It's about contact point. Not position, although it has to do with a slight amount, that doesn't mean we'd have that many positions of flings. Let's say there is a possibility of the foot being pulled upward while it is resting below the sled. I'd call that a very strong 3rd pos. non fakie foot well. Not a 4th position or some garbage just because it's sitting somewhere different. The contact point and direction in which it is being pulled is more reliable than only position of contact point.

so by your logic any well that pulls the foot "up" is 3rd pos, any well that pulls it "forward" is second pos and any well that pulls "down" is first pos, is that about right?