Final Four Poll #1

oh tie, i voted for incito. . . i think

lol i voted a few hours ago and i forgot which one i voted for

Rafael wrote:

Wizzy wrote:

Hedgehogs4Me wrote:Go Incito Vision!

fix'd

also @ what raf said (not trying to start any arguments of any sort); I think every new trick ever created required creativity, and not just skill that's kinda like saying techdawg has no creativity but only skill for his scenery. It takes lots and lots of creativity, and then some skill wouldn't you agree?

Also, I love these tracks too much to vote. I'm not gonna pick a favorite, if I had it my way I would vote for both of them. Either way I'm happy for whichever wins.

OMG YOU DON'T AGREE WITH ME

jk

I know what you mean, but my point is Hedges tricks are based on it.
It's a combination of 2 tricks, alt fling and fling, alt fling and groll. They're hard to make up, but not THAT hard to make. Incito just does really crazy stuff, that is so hard to make that nobody did it before, but a lot of people already thought about.

I totally get what you mean
Except i dont think many people would of thought of the crazy ass sh** aspi thought of im sure hes still got a bajillion 'wtf' ideas floating around in his abnormally sized head... and skull

*shrug*

iunno

Purtle wrote:*shrug*

iunno

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rabid squirrel wrote:

Purtle wrote:*shrug*

iunno

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You aren't the only one.

rabid squirrel wrote:

Purtle wrote:*shrug*

iunno

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*shrug* iguessso

I've made up my mind..voting for Vision, while watching it I felt like the whole track was a genius monument (not counting that dragon, but the awesome-factor ).
I feel like I should watch Hedge's tracks more often o.o

For some reason now I am totally obsessed with vision, I've watched it about 10 times in the last 2 days. That's more than I've watched BS O.o I think hedge did something to that track to make you love it, subliminal messaging from the future?

Incito gmv.
Awesome syncing, awesome speed, and intensity to the max!
Best track I could ever think about

It's the track that started a competition against the track that won the competition

Just noticed it

Close one!
Good luck Hedge, let the best win

Oh, Raf && Wizzy, there is lotsa creativity needed to come up with the tricks. Then you need creativity to think of a way to excecute the trick. And then you need creativity for the next trick
I just say quirk is very much about creativity. Mr. Bjerre inspired me to do Incito with this Blends mainly, because they were so creatively exposed. They included creativity in quirk in a totally different way. It's what I tried to do with Incito too: Have a plan for the layout and the whole picture, not just the tricks

aspi33 wrote:

Oh, Raf && Wizzy, there is lotsa creativity needed to come up with the tricks. Then you need creativity to think of a way to excecute the trick. And then you need creativity for the next trick

We should all be imagineers then.

Aspi <3

aspi33 wrote:Close one!
Good luck Hedge, let the best win

Good luck to you too. I'm still rooting for you, haha.

aspi33 wrote:Close one!
Good luck Hedge, let the best win

Oh, Raf && Wizzy, there is lotsa creativity needed to come up with the tricks. Then you need creativity to think of a way to excecute the trick. And then you need creativity for the next trick
I just say quirk is very much about creativity. Mr. Bjerre inspired me to do Incito with this Blends mainly, because they were so creatively exposed. They included creativity in quirk in a totally different way. It's what I tried to do with Incito too: Have a plan for the layout and the whole picture, not just the tricks

I know you need creativity, Incito is definitely very creative. But your tricks are insanely hard to do, and Hedge's ones aren't that hard to do. Your tricks are insane flings, Hedge's ones are new kind of flings. That's what I want to say

^I don't know, some of hedge's tricks are pretty insane XD

but I have to agree, Incito is definitely one of the most creative and innovate tracks out there! I loved both tracks, but I just thought hedge's track had more soul :\ but that's just personal opinion.. incito was mind-blowing awesome, though haha

Rafael wrote:I know what you mean, but my point is Hedges tricks are based on it.
It's a combination of 2 tricks, alt fling and fling, alt fling and groll. They're hard to make up, but not THAT hard to make. Incito just does really crazy stuff, that is so hard to make that nobody did it before, but a lot of people already thought about.

So Incito was unique because nobody had done it...
..so how many people made anything like Vision before (or even AFTER) it was released??

Rafael wrote:I know you need creativity, Incito is definitely very creative. But your tricks are insanely hard to do, and Hedge's ones aren't that hard to do. Your tricks are insane flings, Hedge's ones are new kind of flings. That's what I want to say

Hedge's tricks were unheard of before he did them ._.

Hedge's Vision is like the ultimate track of creativity. The tons of new tricks, the way he executed the tricks. So much stuff he CREATED in that track was never even heard of before he showed us. It's a revolutionary track, and you're saying it has less creativity than a track with "hard tricks?"

I'd like you to tell me how many people have done an ASDF, alt fling roll, inverted nose g-roll, alt flanual, recycled a foot ling as a tail manual, dual alt flings, asdf flanuals, 2nd pos. foot groll, ect. ect. ect. It's not that these are "hard tricks," which they are, it's that they are creative, new, and unheard of before Vision. Well, some of them

^I thought he didn't just do this tricks, but he executed so much new stuff in one single track so well..it's just hilarious

/no that's not any kind of advertisement, aspi's track is w00t as well

Votale wrote:

Rafael wrote:I know you need creativity, Incito is definitely very creative. But your tricks are insanely hard to do, and Hedge's ones aren't that hard to do. Your tricks are insane flings, Hedge's ones are new kind of flings. That's what I want to say

Hedge's tricks were unheard of before he did them ._.

Hedge's Vision is like the ultimate track of creativity. The tons of new tricks, the way he executed the tricks. So much stuff he CREATED in that track was never even heard of before he showed us. It's a revolutionary track, and you're saying it has less creativity than a track with "hard tricks?"

I'd like you to tell me how many people have done an ASDF, alt fling roll, inverted nose g-roll, alt flanual, recycled a foot ling as a tail manual, dual alt flings, asdf flanuals, 2nd pos. foot groll, ect. ect. ect. It's not that these are "hard tricks," which they are, it's that they are creative, new, and unheard of before Vision. Well, some of them

I never said Incito was more creative than Vision, I said it's tricks were creative in another way. And all Hedge's tricks were remade by other people within a month. None of Incito's tricks have been remade yet as far as I know. I think it is logical to conclude Incito had harder tricks to do than Vision.

^sorry but gotta say logical answers are not always the right ones

/not only lr related lol

People did hedges tricks so quickly because they were more popular. i think.

Rafael wrote:

Votale wrote:

Rafael wrote:I know you need creativity, Incito is definitely very creative. But your tricks are insanely hard to do, and Hedge's ones aren't that hard to do. Your tricks are insane flings, Hedge's ones are new kind of flings. That's what I want to say

Hedge's tricks were unheard of before he did them ._.

Hedge's Vision is like the ultimate track of creativity. The tons of new tricks, the way he executed the tricks. So much stuff he CREATED in that track was never even heard of before he showed us. It's a revolutionary track, and you're saying it has less creativity than a track with "hard tricks?"

I'd like you to tell me how many people have done an ASDF, alt fling roll, inverted nose g-roll, alt flanual, recycled a foot ling as a tail manual, dual alt flings, asdf flanuals, 2nd pos. foot groll, ect. ect. ect. It's not that these are "hard tricks," which they are, it's that they are creative, new, and unheard of before Vision. Well, some of them

I never said Incito was more creative than Vision, I said it's tricks were creative in another way. And all Hedge's tricks were remade by other people within a month. None of Incito's tricks have been remade yet as far as I know. I think it is logical to conclude Incito had harder tricks to do than Vision.

lets look it this way

Hedge made trick

Aspi recreat

people tryign to recreat what aspi did which hedge did before

purtle comments like he dont care that much

problem?

EDIT: and ofc, Hedge era and Aspi era is diffrent, Hedge = smooth yet kinda hard, Aspi = hard and yet kinda HARD

Rafael wrote:I never said Incito was more creative than Vision, I said it's tricks were creative in another way. And all Hedge's tricks were remade by other people within a month. None of Incito's tricks have been remade yet as far as I know. I think it is logical to conclude Incito had harder tricks to do than Vision.

You did say it took a lot of creativity to create the tricks that were made in Incito. The reason Incito's tricks aren't being done right now is because.. Well tbh they're worthless. Who wants to do an inversed hand fling that uses one hand or whatever? Everyone, and I mean everyone, wants to do an alt fling roll, and alt flanual, ASDFs, etc. Face it, the tricks in Incito are like, "OK now no one is ever gonna do those again because they aren't that special." To be honest, the only special trick in Incito that I care about is the second position foot loop.. Hedge's tricks were GROUND BREAKING, REVOLUTIONARY, INNOVATIVE, INVENTIVE, CUTTING EDGE, STATE-OF-THE-ART tricks that everyone was saying "WOW!" at. I couldn't even tell the difference between some of Incito's "Revolutionary Flings" and a nose fling ._.

How about you don't look at the difficulty of making the track, but the creativity, the way it's used, and the impact those tricks have on what LR has become.


EDIT: And I'd rather watch an ASDF than something from Incito that I couldn't even tell was new in the 1st place without aspi telling me... lmao

MartinJulenissen wrote:lets look it this way

Hedge made trick

Aspi recreat Ok, I do not want that mark on me. Have you EVER seen eg. (from Incito) the "nose-combo fling", the "nose combo asdf", the "tail pinch", not-fakie inv nose flanual, etc before Incito? These are specific tricks. If you are looking for general inventions, then the new stuff I successfully executed (may invented) and innovated in Incito was: combo flings (combining several contact points in the same frame), "spidey-to-both" hand flings (alternating between string pull and whole pull of hands (and feet)), double alt. flings, and I kinda invented the inversed 2. pos feet fling. I tried my very best to think inventive in Incito, but where it wasn't possible, I innovated. I invented when people thought everything was invented. I'm not a simple rip-off!

people tryign to recreat what aspi did which hedge did before

purtle comments like he dont care that much

problem?

EDIT: and ofc, Hedge era and Aspi era is diffrent, Hedge = smooth yet kinda hard, Aspi = hard and yet kinda HARD

Try rewatch Incito from here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkZt_9fhIOQ#t=2m7s, and speak afterwards. Btw, I did not comment anything but what was really big in my eyes. There are small finesses all over the track. (eg. the flanuals everywhere. They are not clean, but integrates more than one contact-point.)

I just noticed that all the three words "Innovate, Intergate, Invent", kinda invented by Hedge. The kinda is the because he did write down the words, but in a way he put words on the creating process, so that we might be aware of how to generally improve our tracks.

No offence anyone, I just need to get this said