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Post by Pinter on Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:18 pm

Heya

Collab between me and ryder, enjoy!

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Re: The Other Side - Ryder and Pinter

Post by chaomocha on Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:20 pm

WMG hates your faces Sad

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Re: The Other Side - Ryder and Pinter

Post by Pinter on Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:31 pm

goddamnit D:

Blocked in some countries Sad

EDIT; blocked in the US
EDIT 2; Upload without/with other music ? Or is there another thing I can do ?

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Re: The Other Side - Ryder and Pinter

Post by RyderLR on Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:44 pm

send it to me and I can upload it.

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Re: The Other Side - Ryder and Pinter

Post by Helios Pavonine on Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:31 pm

That was better than I'd expected! Somehow some parts reminded me a lot of Georgio.

First off, the integration was outstanding. Loved it!

Secondly, the manuals could use some improvement, for both of you. Try to be precise and make them as smooth and balanced as you can.

Thirdly, Pinter's last part was fun! You should improve more on quirk, because I believe you got potential! That also applies to Ryder. Your grolling was coolos beanos.

Overall a fun track. Good job you two Very Happy

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Re: The Other Side - Ryder and Pinter

Post by RyderLR on Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:33 pm

;_; I wish I could watch it, haven't seen it in a long time xD

Thanks for the advice and tips though Very Happy

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Re: The Other Side - Ryder and Pinter

Post by Opal Rider on Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:30 pm

I wish I could watch it, too. Stern but Fair

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Re: The Other Side - Ryder and Pinter

Post by weebit on Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:36 pm

@Opal Rider wrote:I wish I could watch it, too. Stern but Fair

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Re: The Other Side - Ryder and Pinter

Post by RyderLR on Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:32 pm

I told him to send it to me but he sent me the .sol, and I'm not about to record and edit when he already did D:

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Re: The Other Side - Ryder and Pinter

Post by Cereal on Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:10 pm

Um... reupload with non-copyrighted music or audioswap.

Chop chop, let's gooo.

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Re: The Other Side - Ryder and Pinter

Post by Pinter on Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:11 am

damn, I thought ryder meant the sol xd but I'm now at school, as soon as I go home I reupload it

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Re: The Other Side - Ryder and Pinter

Post by WishLine on Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:26 pm

WishLine track rating system
Section 1 – Track Creation (3 Points out of a possible 5)
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Track had suitable titles and credits = +1
Track had fitting music = +1

Track had a special feature (all blue, all red, a plot, special editing, music syncing, super-long) = +2
Track was >1 minute in length = +1
Section 2 – Track Progression (7 Points out of a possible 10)
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Track had quite smooth curves = +1 –OR– Track had very smooth curves = +2
Track moved left as well as right = +1
Track moved up as well as down = +1

This track had some sort of basic flip or loop-the-loop = +1
Track had a good pace = +1 –OR– Track had an extremely fast pace = +2
Track flowed nicely = +1 –OR– Track flowed extremely well = +3
Section 3 – Manuals (9 Points out of a possible 15)
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Track had nose manuals = +1
Track had tail manuals = +2

Track had head manuals = +2
The track executed a manual loop = +3
Track was >50% manuals = +3 –OR– This track was primarily a manual track = +5
Some of these manuals could be regarded as ‘high-speed’ = +2
Section 4 – Quirks (12 Points out of a possible 20)
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This track had gravity wells = +2
Some of these wells were in lengthy chains = +2
Some of these made a loop or spiral = +3
This track had flings = +2

These flings were varied, long and impressive = +3
This track had a special manual (granual, flanual, Kramual etc) = +3
This track was primarily a quirk track = +5
Section 5 – Track Beginning and Ending (5 Points out of a possible 5)
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Track started at a good speed = +1
Track ended with a good or funny crash = +1 –OR– Track ended with a good standstill = +2
–OR– Track ended with a recognised stall = +4
Section 6 – Scenery (X Points out of a possible 25)
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Track attempted some scenery = +1 –OR– Entire track was scened = +3
Scenery was consistent and realistic = +3 –OR– Scenery was abstract and entertaining +3
Scenery used good shading = +2
Scenery did not leave unattractive white space = +2
Scenery had a good monument = +3 –OR– Scenery had several good or one exceptional moment = +5
Scenery had impressive detail = +5 –OR– Scenery had stunning detail = +10

Section 7 – Track entertainment value and comments (10 Points out of a possible 20)
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A basic score out of twenty to illustrate the author’s personal enjoyment of this track = 10
Comments: Hey, I've got viewing rights, so I can comment. And my comment proceeds thus:

Your two styles complement each other beautifully. Well done you guys for creating a smooth and impressive work of Line Rider art that stayed interesting throughout. Good going Smile
Scoring
Scened = A/A/100
Naked = 46/75
Final Score = 61%
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Below 20% = Newbie
20-29% = Emerging
30-39% = Average
40-49% = Decent
50-59% = Good
60-69% = Great
70=79% = Excellent
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Re: The Other Side - Ryder and Pinter

Post by RyderLR on Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:40 pm

Not bashing the whole idea, I mean it's great that you are reviewing tracks but this is VERY flawed imo. I will point out the problems.....

@WishLine wrote:WishLine track rating system
Section 1 – Track Creation (3 Points out of a possible 5)

Section 2 – Track Progression (7 Points out of a possible 10)
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Track had quite smooth curves = +1 –OR– Track had very smooth curves = +2
Track moved left as well as right = +1
Track moved up as well as down = +1

This track had some sort of basic flip or loop-the-loop = +1
Track had a good pace = +1 –OR– Track had an extremely fast pace = +2
Track flowed nicely = +1 –OR– Track flowed extremely well = +3

Why does it matter if the track was extremely fast pace? there are hundreds of tracks that are amazing at a slow smooth pace, maybe I am misunderstanding this concept, but this doesn't seem right.

Section 3 – Manuals (9 Points out of a possible 15)
Spoiler:
Track had nose manuals = +1
Track had tail manuals = +2

Track had head manuals = +2
The track executed a manual loop = +3
Track was >50% manuals = +3 –OR– This track was primarily a manual track = +5
Some of these manuals could be regarded as ‘high-speed’ = +2

So for a manual track to be good it has to have head manuals? and a manual loop? and why does a track that has manuals in it have to be primarily a manual track for it to receive more points? Also, why do the manuals have to be high speed?

Section 4 – Quirks (12 Points out of a possible 20)
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This track had gravity wells = +2
Some of these wells were in lengthy chains = +2
Some of these made a loop or spiral = +3
This track had flings = +2

These flings were varied, long and impressive = +3
This track had a special manual (granual, flanual, Kramual etc) = +3
This track was primarily a quirk track = +5

loops? spirals? lengthy chains? special manual? primarily a quirk track? again, manu-quirk

Section 5 – Track Beginning and Ending (5 Points out of a possible 5)
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Track started at a good speed = +1
Track ended with a good or funny crash = +1 –OR– Track ended with a good standstill = +2
–OR– Track ended with a recognised stall = +4

beginning and ending? don't all tracks have those, you should put "stall". ended at good speed? what does this mean. recognized stall? what if someone created a new stall, I am confused.

Section 6 – Scenery (X Points out of a possible 25)
Spoiler:
Track attempted some scenery = +1 –OR– Entire track was scened = +3
Scenery was consistent and realistic = +3 –OR– Scenery was abstract and entertaining +3
Scenery used good shading = +2
Scenery did not leave unattractive white space = +2
Scenery had a good monument = +3 –OR– Scenery had several good or one exceptional moment = +5
Scenery had impressive detail = +5 –OR– Scenery had stunning detail = +10


Tracks do not need to be realistic, just no floating objects,I like the "unattractive" white space part, not all tracks need a monument, and I like the rest of this section.

Section 7 – Track entertainment value and comments (10 Points out of a possible 20)
Spoiler:
A basic score out of twenty to illustrate the author’s personal enjoyment of this track = 10
Comments: Hey, I've got viewing rights, so I can comment. And my comment proceeds thus:

Your two styles complement each other beautifully. Well done you guys for creating a smooth and impressive work of Line Rider art that stayed interesting throughout. Good going Smile

This is good and expressing criticism here would be good, comments are always welcomed on any track.

Scoring
Scened = A/A/100
Naked = 46/75
Final Score = 61%
Score-aid
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Below 20% = Newbie
20-29% = Emerging
30-39% = Average
40-49% = Decent
50-59% = Good
60-69% = Great
70=79% = Excellent
80-89% = Supreme
Over 90% = Epic

I learned that grading scales such as this one are unnecessary, too many possible options. Makes people angry if they get too low oof a score and people start bawwwing, plus line rider tracks should not be graded, this is not school, this is where we come to have fun, which is what line rider is at its core. No matter what anyone thinks. They are for amusement, not to be judged, but constructive criticism is good.


Don't worry I love the concept, but needs tweaking and chaning. I used to use something (somewhat) similar to this, I realized it was no the right thing to do. Sorry but I don't approve of this, but hey it's jsut my opinion if you like doing it, by all means keep doing it! Thumbs Up

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Re: The Other Side - Ryder and Pinter

Post by Pinter on Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:45 am

Ohkey I uploaded another version!

EDIT: btw wishline, I like it how you reviewed this track, but if it was a quirk track, you won't score any points on manuals.. ?

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Re: The Other Side - Ryder and Pinter

Post by WishLine on Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:19 pm

ryderofthelines wrote:Not bashing the whole idea, I mean it's great that you are reviewing tracks but this is VERY flawed imo. I will point out the problems.....

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Don't worry I love the concept, but needs tweaking and chaning. I used to use something (somewhat) similar to this, I realized it was no the right thing to do. Sorry but I don't approve of this, but hey it's jsut my opinion if you like doing it, by all means keep doing it! Thumbs Up

Big thanks for the feedback. What I'm trying to do at the mo is rate a variety of tracks and see how the system works out, whether it gives accurate scores. I'm not in the least offended by your points. I suppose some of the scoring is at odds with itself, but nobody is meant to get full marks.

In particular, I'm concerned myself by the 'primarily a manual' 'primarily a quirk' points awards...I'll have to look at them :/

Also, as for the 'realistic' point in the scenery, that's why there's an 'or' there. If scenery is 'abstract and entertaining', it can score points in that way!

It's work in progress. After I've reviewed about twenty tracks of varying abilities I'll have a reshuffle!

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Re: The Other Side - Ryder and Pinter

Post by StingReay on Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:11 pm

Video not blocked in Canada. 8D

Anyway, I quite enjoyed that! Great job.

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Re: The Other Side - Ryder and Pinter

Post by Stallie on Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:54 pm

Pinter your parts were pretty good over all, but some of your curves were a little rough. Try to improve on your curves a little more. Over all your parts were nice. Ryder your parts were really good, your curves were smooth and your wells were not bad at all. Over all you did a nice job as well. All together you guys did a very nice job. Wink
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Re: The Other Side - Ryder and Pinter

Post by rabid squirrel on Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:44 pm

@WishLine wrote:
ryderofthelines wrote:Not bashing the whole idea, I mean it's great that you are reviewing tracks but this is VERY flawed imo. I will point out the problems.....

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Don't worry I love the concept, but needs tweaking and chaning. I used to use something (somewhat) similar to this, I realized it was no the right thing to do. Sorry but I don't approve of this, but hey it's jsut my opinion if you like doing it, by all means keep doing it! Thumbs Up

Big thanks for the feedback. What I'm trying to do at the mo is rate a variety of tracks and see how the system works out, whether it gives accurate scores. I'm not in the least offended by your points. I suppose some of the scoring is at odds with itself, but nobody is meant to get full marks.

In particular, I'm concerned myself by the 'primarily a manual' 'primarily a quirk' points awards...I'll have to look at them :/

Also, as for the 'realistic' point in the scenery, that's why there's an 'or' there. If scenery is 'abstract and entertaining', it can score points in that way!

It's work in progress. After I've reviewed about twenty tracks of varying abilities I'll have a reshuffle!
Or you could grade tracks based on

1. How entertaining was it

2. How impressed were you

3. How much did it inspire you

4. How influential do you think it will be

5. What would you have done differently

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Re: The Other Side - Ryder and Pinter

Post by chaomocha on Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:42 pm

@rabid squirrel wrote:
1. How entertaining was it
very
2. How impressed were you
very
3. How much did it inspire you
enough to keep working on my track Very Happy
4. How influential do you think it will be
eh not much, but I'm a man of simple taste and enjoy watching everything
5. What would you have done differently
not a whole lot, your style is yours and you did it perfectly

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