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Post by rabid squirrel on Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:31 am

Update (March 14th): Shotoku filed a copyright takedown notice after I reuploaded the videos to IRTLTube. I filed a counter notification, and in the correspondence that followed he agreed to reupload his videos to a new channel. I've created a playlist of all the videos of his we have, in reverse chronological order.

Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoKj2krkU6XdHGClTlmcGo3Lzrv7KAlt-
(all recovered videos)

High quality videos available on request, just ask.

Sol files we have:
  • Angel
  • Smile
  • Metropolis Run
  • A Walk in the Park
  • Honey Trap
  • Toxic
  • Bushido
  • Melt Everyone
  • Not Jagged Peak
  • unfinished kramwood collab
  • unfinished tracks: whisper, stoke the flames, perfect freeze, invincible, flow, cosmos, comet storm, perversion, cannonball, glamour, reanimate, viper, forever hero, stoked, math
  • other old sols

Wish list:
Spoiler:
Shotoku wrote:- Debut (first track)
- Bolt Fist (2nd Track)
- Untitled practice track (between Bolt Fist and Unnoticed, features one lined kramual near start, no song)
- Rain (XY)
- Sky Alight (high speed, most of it can be seen at end of Unfinished IV but has wrong song playing and missing ending)
- 3 or 4 other unfinished track collections
- Do A Barrel Roll (all red mostly manuals)
- Gaea's Cradle (Mostly manuals, referenced in This Is Love so might be cool to find)
- Infinite Looping Tracks (there's two of them)
- Blur (You sent me the recordings recently but I never re-edited it, and I honestly can't remember what song was for it. It was for a contest in 2012 though so maybe you can find the thread that says what song it was and re-edit it if you can't find the original vid)
- contest tracks, of varying degrees of originality (some for CotM probably before I took it over, but I know there was one called B.O.S.H. made in a low gravity build)
- Facebook (hax track)
- Original shitty edit of Angel with credits
- Watery Grave (2nd in Realms series)
- Can't remember the name, but it was synced to this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPR4HtbNYg8 and was the first in a possible series that never got past the first video (2nd track in series was in an unfinished track thingy)

If you'd like to record or edit something (or lots of things) I will post the sol(s) and/or recording(s) for ya.


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Re: Shotoku recovery stuffz

Post by Anton on Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:15 am

:facepalm:

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Re: Shotoku recovery stuffz

Post by ScrungleBlumpkus on Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:22 am

What even are you people anymore

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Post by Sheldon on Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:48 am

well done shotoku, well done buddy
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Post by JealousCloud on Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:06 am

"dont delete your tracks" is gonna be a meme then here huh. :facepalm:

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Re: Shotoku recovery stuffz

Post by OTDE on Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:07 am

Line Rider world records are a funny thing. I'm more than happy with the one I have. I wonder how shotoku feels about his.

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Post by ScrungleBlumpkus on Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:42 pm

I've got one and I don't feel tempted to delete my tracks

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Re: Shotoku recovery stuffz

Post by SethComposerGuy on Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:05 pm

Alright, who let the preschoolers out, or are we just living in a mad mad world? I guess insecure people just have to leave this place like a wrecking ball.

Seriously though, I just don't understand the mentality behind deleting your youtube videos if people are enjoying them.

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Post by Conundrumer on Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:10 pm

SethComposerGuy wrote:Alright, who let the preschoolers out, or are we just living in a mad mad world? I guess insecure people just have to leave this place like a wrecking ball.

Seriously though, I just don't understand the mentality behind deleting your youtube videos if people are enjoying them.

http://iridethelines.forumotion.com/t11486-why-do-people-delete-their-line-rider-videos

also resentful people know that deleting their videos will harm this community so they do it out of spite

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Post by SethComposerGuy on Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:25 pm

I like how on that last post, shotoku mentioned regretting deleting his videos just one month ago. :facepalm:

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Post by Z_N-Freak on Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:01 pm

OTDE wrote:Line Rider world records are a funny thing. I'm more than happy with the one I have. I wonder how shotoku feels about his.

This made me chuckle xD

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Post by rabid squirrel on Fri Feb 19, 2016 4:38 pm

Thanks again Very Happy

uploaded to youtube & added to the OP

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Re: Shotoku recovery stuffz

Post by bibliOly on Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:19 pm

DUMP PLUMP TRUMP THE CHUMP-ity BUMP
rabid squirrel wrote:Wish list:

  • Eclipse video
  • Twisted Logic video
  • Original video (or a re-edit) of Not Jagged Peak
  • Edit job of unfinished Kramwood collab
  • Edit job of a garbage collection or of any of his unfinished tracks
  • Any of his old stuff from before the first time he deleted his videos in 2013

I found a few things on that list:
-Twisted Logic video;
-Any of his old stuff from before the first time he deleted his videos in 2013
...and check in the "New sols" folder for at least one of his sols(yoloswag).

Shotoku folder here:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3a45lrjjbcdr0ou/AAD_t8zYfmzCnZUn4TYHIItea?dl=0

New sols folder:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/x0lhktthc03mv25/AADXFf6YwOx8_W4xmPeIzY7La?dl=0

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Post by rabid squirrel on Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:31 pm

Unfortunately, this is on hold for the time being. Shotoku filed a copyright takedown on his videos. I'm working on getting them back up under the section of copyright fair use law for archival purposes, should know how it's going in the next week or so.

Worst case scenario I will upload them all to dropbox and post them here, and start a new youtube channel for broadcasts and quick reviews and the like...

EDIT: that said, whoa that is a lot of videos recovered thanks so much!

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Post by rabid squirrel on Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:53 am

I am happy to inform everyone that shotoku and I have worked out an agreement.

He has reuploaded the videos to this channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCw1sdUqXb5-jXKYthoduovQ/videos
The rest that bilbiOly recently recovered should follow shortly.

I'll rework the OP of this thread and the IRTLTube channel soon, and the copyright strike on IRTLTube should expire in a couple of weeks.

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Post by rabid squirrel on Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:29 pm

Bump, here is a playlist with everything in reverse chronological order along with notes on upload dates. I'll update the OP in this thread later today.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoKj2krkU6XdHGClTlmcGo3Lzrv7KAlt-

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Post by efrazable on Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:53 am

Sorry this happened, but I really appreiciate your efforts, Rabid, whenever this happens. When we have someone's tracks, they've never really left, and we never lose that connection. That's how I've felt about pretty much anyone who leaves.

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Post by rabid squirrel on Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:45 am

thanks efaz.

updated op.

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Post by rabid squirrel on Mon Aug 08, 2016 4:13 pm

And he took all his videos down again

Sending him an email...

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Post by ScrungleBlumpkus on Mon Aug 08, 2016 4:18 pm

What did we even do this time bro

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Post by Fauxfyre on Tue Aug 09, 2016 3:24 am

Probably a bad idea to post this since someone in charge will just delete it anyways because I was the one that posted it, but whatever

https://mega.nz/#!YBFwDZJS!mtmMxJMAl71jCYSwJQ1zdokAbkJM12ZNlnx1Xz1oHNE

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Post by ScrungleBlumpkus on Tue Aug 09, 2016 3:45 am

Light the fiiiiiire (light the fiiire)
In my soooouuuulll (in my weaarryyy soul)
Fan the flaaaaames (fan the flames!)
Make me whoooooole (Make my spirit whole)
Lord you knowwwwwwwww u mad broooo?
Light the fire
of the trolls
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Post by rabid squirrel on Tue Aug 09, 2016 7:45 am

shotoku wrote:I honestly don't care what the fuck you do with my videos
Okay then......... I will reupload them then lol.

I did in fact take you at your word and remove them from IRTLTube because I'm not a complete douchebag, so, uh, troll accomplished!


shotoku wrote:I will agree it is a little immature what I am doing


*starts a chant*
How low can you go?!
How low can you go?!
How low can you go?!
HOW LOW CAN YOU GO???!!!
*breaks down sobbing*

When he deletes this hilarious audio file here it is for posterity:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/88470717/Voice%20001.m4a

EDIT: It occurred to me that he posted this audio file entirely without the context of our negotiations, so I've decided to post them as well.

Spoiler:
Attempt to Negotiate for claim 5-3915000010797

Austin Roberts
Mar 11

to irtltube
If you wish to use my videos on IRTLTube, I will stop fighting for ownership of my content under these conditions.

I will upload the videos to another channel I own under my own conditions and provide you with the appropriate pages to link how you wish. These re-uploads will have a reduced quality and may have altered titles, descriptions, and annotations, but will have original and unaltered video and audio, save for the quality reduction.

If you say will not cease to display them on IRTLTube or any other channel by deleting them, then you must at least try to follow the guidlines in the section of law you referenced. This means attempting to negotiate a fair price with me to display them against my reuploads and providing a suitable copyright notice. I will not interfere with them anymore on any channel you wish to have them on under these conditions after receiving a payment which can be negotiated later.

Please reply with either the consent to remove them from IRTLTube upon me making them available to the public via reupload again or your desire to follow through with further negotiations. If a response is not received by March 16th I will counter your counter claim to the fullest extent I can.I recommend you take me seriously in this matter.

Ben Harvey
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I will consent to remove the videos from IRTLTube if you make them available to the public again, under the following conditions:
1. The quality must remain at a level high enough that the works are still able to be studied, and no details of the videos are lost. You are not permitted to intentionally lower the quality with the purpose of making the videos unwatchable.
2. The originally published titles of the videos must remain clear to the viewer.
3. You may not use the altered titles, descriptions, or annotations with vicious intentions to attack or disparage IRTLTube, WeRideTheLines, myself (Ben Harvey, alias rabid squirrel), or any other members of the Line Rider community.

If you do not agree to these terms, I will opt to keep the videos on IRTLTube, and attempt to honor your request to follow Section 108 more closely. IRTLTube operates entirely on volunteer time and has received no funds of any kind, and thus does not have a budget. I was not aware that profit could be made from a private youtube video, and thus I doubt compensation of more than $0.00 would be required for reuploading your videos. If I am wrong, I am happy to enter negotiations, but understand that monetary compensation will not be possible without requesting donations from the Line Rider community. I will, however, certainly provide a more suitable copyright notice on each video, and make sure that it is to your satisfaction.

Since you filed the takedown notice, a number of other videos of yours have been recovered. They are:
- Under the Radar
- Electron Cloud
- Moonlight
- Y is for Yoloswag
- Unnoticed
- Unfinished Tracks IV
- Twisted Logic
- Track I made in an hour
- Revel
- Rarity
- Nocturnus
- Leviathan
- City of Brass
- Birthday Present
Please inform me which, if any, of these videos you would like to include in these negotiations, and in what capacity.

Thank you for your correspondence. I hope we can come to an agreement on this issue so that your wishes met as much as possible, while still allowing for the videos to be publicly available to the Line Rider community. I wish you had reached out to me in person on this matter earlier, instead of filing a takedown notice and effectively sabotaging the IRTLTube channel's good standing with a copyright strike. I hope we can come to an agreement that will once again allow IRTLTube to continue to upload content such as squirrel broadcasts and quick reviews, which I hope you can agree are important for both the channel and the Line Rider community as a whole.

On a less formal note, I hope you are doing well. I don't think I can still say that we at WRTL hope you come back after all you've done, but I still do appreciate all the work you did for WRTL, both when you were staff and when you were not. And I hope you believe me when I say that these videos were not reuploaded out of spite, but out of a genuine desire to make them available to the Line Rider community for study, as is the intention with all IRTLTube Recovery Project uploads. The body of work you have created is solid, entertaining, important, and often beautiful.

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Ben Harvey


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Mar 13

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All previously claimed videos have been repuloaded at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCw1sdUqXb5-jXKYthoduovQ.

While the resolution is mildly reduced I believe they should satisfy your guidelines of being watchable. Additionally the titles are as descriptive as necessary and does not contain any libel, nor do the descriptions. In any case, you have non-Youtube archival methods at your disposal I'm sure to contain the originals if you ever wished to distribute the files in a less-publicly searchable setting.

I would appreciate a copy of the other videos you have noted as well to upload myself, if you would be so kind. As a fair warning, if there are any 3rd Party Copyright claims due to music on any of them as there were in the past, I will opt to remove or replace the audio rather than fight to keep the original audio on the video.

On a less formal note, I'm honestly surprised those had survived somehow and if they had came along a year or two ago I would have been ecstatic. Seems the only things missing are some of the very first ones and a couple from mid-2013 that I can remember off the top of my head. Thank you for understanding willingness to work this out, though I had wished you would have attempted contact beforehand when in the past I had explicitly expressed an aversion to re-uploading removed videos without consent of the person who made it. On a final note, while my views on WRTL and Line Rider are for the most part negative, I still think in general it is a good thing you are dedicated to what you do to help tje people who still enjoy it, especially in the face of such adversity over the years (though I may disagree with your means of doing so at times). I hope you apply that kind of passion to other things in your life as well, and understand that I'm not a monster out to destroy everything you've done, I have a life, family, and other friends just as anyone does. I just get a bit more defensive and riled up when I feel wronged or see things happening I feel aren't just, as you've probably noticed over the years. Have a good one, I am reachable at this e-mail if you ever wish to contact me for something important.

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Austin Roberts
Mar 13

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Okay so I just ended up seeing what was in the recovery thread on the site by bypassing IP ban again (seriously annoying, especially when I can get past it just by going somewhere with my phone or take my laptop to somewhere other than my apartment) and I found the folder of stuff. I'll upload whatever is there soon. I will also just put up a couple other videos I have that you hadn't put on IRTLTube.

Since you caught me on a good day and I'm feeling especially benevolent, here's a list of what I know is missing so you can add it to whatever wish list you have (I didn't take a look at what was there now)

Debut (first track)
Bolt Fist (2nd Track)
Untitled practice track (between Bolt Fist and Unnoticed, features one lined kramual near start, no song)
Rain (XY)
Sky Alight (high speed, most of it can be seen at end of Unfinished IV but has wrong song playing and missing ending)
Speaking of which, there's 3 or 4 other unfinished track collections that were put out (not sure if there was a 5th one, something wants to say yes but considering what was in the 4th I want to say there wasn't a fifth)
Do A Barrel Roll (all red mostly manuals)
Gaea's Cradle (Mostly manuals, referenced in This Is Love so might be cool to find)
Infinite Looping Tracks (there's two of them)
Blur (You sent me the recordings recently but I never re-edited it, and I honestly can't remember what song was for it. It was for a contest in 2012 though so maybe you can find the thread that says what song it was and re-edit it if you can't find the original vid)
Also probably several contest tracks, of varying degrees of originality (some for CotM probably before I took it over, but I know there was one called B.O.S.H. made in a low gravity build)
Facebook (hax track)
Original shitty edit of Angel with credits

Nothing else really comes to mind except a few tracks I know were never put out in any form. There was a really cool flatsled/xy omni that I sent a sol to OTDE once but he told me he didn't have it anymore. Everything else I can remember from back then I believe was in an unfinished track video. That other sol folder on that thread, I don't recognize anything other than Yoloswag that might be mine, but if you are wondering about any of them you can send me a screenshot and I will be able to recognize it if it was something of mine.

Ben Harvey
Mar 13

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I greatly appreciate this. Yes, those reuploads are just fine.

I would like to wait until the copyright strike has officially been lifted before taking down the videos... which I think will happen if we just wait until they expire? (10-14 business days from March 11, according to the email I received) You may know more than I do about this based on what YouTube has been telling you on your end, but YouTube was very clear that deleting the videos was not a valid way of removing the strike so I am worried that if I delete the videos the strike won't expire. So I think I will wait for the strikes to expire before removing the videos, which may mean that they will become briefly public on IRTLTube between when the strike is removed and I remove them from the channel. So just letting you know in case you come across them during that time.

I'll make sure to post your list of missing tracks and send you an email if we recover any more of them. Do you have any requests related to your unfinished and/or unreleased tracks that I made recordings of? I have been planning to edit and release them eventually.


Austin Roberts
Mar 13

to me
I don't have any information on what can be done on your end in regards to the strikes, just that if I didn't respond to YT with a counter to your counter within 10 days the content would be made available again until I did. If for some reason the strike is not removed if you remove them after that time then I would do what I need to work it out, as it's only fair considering the uploads it was against aren't there anymore.

As for those extra recordings, if you reference my username at all (which I'm assuming you would so it's clear what the video is) then yes I would prefer them all be in with the rest of them on the re-upload channel. Unless you wanted to give them special treatment with the songs I included and some extra editing, then I would just upload them all as they are now if I was able to access the old message you sent me. If you really want to add something else to them though it doesn't really matter to me what you do in the video, but I would prefer to have what I made and what has my alias on it to be with the rest of them on that separate channel, provided all that's left to do is upload it.

Ben Harvey
Mar 13

to Austin
Sounds good. I will keep you updated on IRTLTube's standing and copyright strike status, and when I do the edits (which will include music and simple titles like other archive videos) I will email them to you for you to upload to that channel (with a title and description as you see fit) and will refrain from distributing them elsewhere on YouTube.

If you think of any further concerns, feel free to email me. I check this email frequently (and every email I have, including every youtube channel, funnels into this one, so I effectively check all of them frequently)

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Funky Flyin' by ClosedDoor [rerecorded]

Austin Roberts
Mar 13

to me
Two more short tracks I remembered

Watery Grave (2nd in Realms series)
Can't remember the name, but it was synced to this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPR4HtbNYg8 and was the first in a possible series that never got past the first video (2nd track in series was in an unfinished track thingy)

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Preview YouTube video Coheed and Cambria-Good Apollo, Vol. 1: Keeping the Blade

Coheed and Cambria-Good Apollo, Vol. 1: Keeping the Blade

Ben Harvey
Apr 3

to Austin
Update:
- copyright strike is expired, yay
- videos are all off IRTLTube

One video that is missing off the reupload channel is Not Jagged Peak. Could you upload that one?

Thanks


Austin Roberts
Apr 3

to me
Was blocked in U.S. due to song, removed song. Should show up soon.


Ben Harvey
Apr 3

to Austin
Got it, thanks. (I have the version with audio downloaded so we're good there)


Ben Harvey
2:58 PM (17 hours ago)

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I've noticed you deleted all your videos off of the channel you made. Is this an ongoing attempt to prevent me making them available for archival purposes? Do I have your permission to reupload them?


Austin Roberts
2:26 AM (6 hours ago)

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I'm bothering to send this to you over email even though I'm sure you'll be the first one to see it in the other place, don't think this means I want you to reply

https://mega.nz/#!YBFwDZJS!mtmMxJMAl71jCYSwJQ1zdokAbkJM12ZNlnx1Xz1oHNE

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Re: Shotoku recovery stuffz

Post by ScrungleBlumpkus on Tue Aug 09, 2016 4:40 pm

I didn't bother to listen to his attack, so if somebody wants to tl;dr it for me...?

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