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Post by OTDE on Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:32 pm

Name some tracks you wanna see up here, and I'll classify them!
More extreme examples are labeled (strong) and less extreme examples are labeled (weak).

In case you didn't hear about the four schools of thought, here's a quick summary:

Most art is on two independent spectrums.
The first is ART and LIFE-- that is, was this work made "for art's sake," or meant to be more relatable?
The second is TRADITION and REVOLUTION-- does your art seek to reinvent, or does it use established ideas?

From these two spectrums, four camps of thought emerge:


CLASSICISTS, above all else, pursue traditional ideals and seek a "higher" form of beauty.

ANIMISTS, on the other hand, use that tradition to make their works more relevant to the real world.

FORMALISTS experiment with the idea, shape, and form of the art medium itself.

ICONOCLASTS, on the other hand, hope to make everything as authentic and "real" as possible.

A more detailed image:



Theory #1: Most work in Line Rider is Classicist.
This is because most works in Line Rider are hard to relate to the outside world, and a lot of works in line rider build on traditions brought about by others.

Corollary: Most people start out as Classicists.

Theory #2: Most sceners are iconoclasts or animists.
Scenery tracks, by their very nature, are more relatable than bare tracks. This pushes scenery over into the right side of the plane MOST of the time. Some sceners (BHCS, Sorvius) have strong Classicist tendencies, but they tend to be exceptions.

Theory #3: Line Rider Iconoclasts are rare.
This is because of two things:
>>Revolution in a medium is difficult, and not everyone's cup of tea.
>>As stated before, tending towards relatability is difficult if you don't scene.
They're not necessarily better, but they are a LOT harder to find.

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CLASSICIST WORKS
-Infinite
-Vibrato
-Inhibitions
-Olxympus
-Changeling
ANIMIST WORKS
-Silk Road Scened
-Silk Road Armageddon
FORMALIST WORKS
-Telephoto
-Sketchbook Sessions (weak)
-Unusuals
-Silk Road
-Phunner
-Phinite
ICONOCLAST WORKS
-Evolution of Line Rider


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Re: [OTDE]: Give me a track and I'll classify it!

Post by Opal Rider on Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:36 pm

I already know exactly where it's going to go, but put Telephoto up there just for funsies.

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Post by hypothet on Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:38 pm

context is important too

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac-eRhiESKE

2a. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-1bscxQPCE
2b. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfuq5zOJ7RY
2c. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syXuh6-Vj8Y

3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfhKeP8t2dY

4a. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak2_7jHtRpA
4b. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf2EI4BlO2I

5a. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzg1h9s9iyY
5b. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf2EI4BlO2I

6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-69RwGDv8g

7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHaWCKji1V4

8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esxWGUnG72I

9. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXiNE8wh2hY


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Re: [OTDE]: Give me a track and I'll classify it!

Post by Chuggers on Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:46 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a1xzuwZsdQ

but actually
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UWKELJzMgk

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Re: [OTDE]: Give me a track and I'll classify it!

Post by OTDE on Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:51 pm

REPLY TIME FELLAS

Telephoto is super strong formalist. It tries really hard to mess with the form of line rider, for the sake of line rider.

That thing that hypothet posted is like super duper classicist, and dark caves of lolno is surprising amounts of formalist, though for the sake of brevity and a joke I'm leaving them out of the main thread :P

Unusuals is also formalist-- It takes the structure and composition of manuals and tries to use it in new ways. I would say moderately formalist.

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Re: [OTDE]: Give me a track and I'll classify it!

Post by OTDE on Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:28 pm

Responding to the rest:
2a. Formalist, deviating from his earlier, iconoclastic works.
2b + c. Animist-- uses traditional yet relatale scenery techniques.

3. Formalist-- applying old standards in a new way.

4a + b. Strong formalist-- playing with and referencing things is super formalist. Cereal's later works tend in this direction.

5a. Classicist-- powerful track, still traditionally made.
5b. Again, formalist-- Cereal's self-awareness and metahumor are what drive the idea home.

6. Iconoclast, with a Formalist slant. Revolutionary and relatable-- at first.

7. Contest entries are more often than not formalist-- you're given a form, and the winners usually challenge that form.

8. Same deal.

9. Vibrato is classicist-- our conception of why it is "good" is steeped in being powerful and recycling-- traditional standards.

Putting the big ones on the list.

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Re: [OTDE]: Give me a track and I'll classify it!

Post by efrazable on Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:46 pm

trolololol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcu8ZdJ2dQo

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Re: [OTDE]: Give me a track and I'll classify it!

Post by Apple on Thu Nov 19, 2015 12:58 am

Just out of curiosity. How about the Sketchbook Sessions?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHcu2Kigtho

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Re: [OTDE]: Give me a track and I'll classify it!

Post by OTDE on Thu Nov 19, 2015 1:30 am

@efrazable wrote:trolololol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcu8ZdJ2dQo

Old tracks are actually super fun to classify with this system. Jagged Peak Adventure is extremely iconoclastic-- it's the first really relatable track that had scenery, and was revolutionary in every sense of the word.

shua wrote:Just out of curiosity. How about the Sketchbook Sessions?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHcu2Kigtho

Sketchbook Sessions was really interesting in how it played around with different ideas of manuals. It's a weak formalist/classicist mix.

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Post by Lukking on Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:27 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PKGLCqjnXg

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Post by ScrungleBlumpkus on Thu Nov 19, 2015 2:31 pm

Can you do the 3 latest mindblowing xys?

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Post by Apple on Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:22 pm

Dapianokid wrote:Can you do the 3 latest mindblowing xys?

You keep saying this. What tracks do you have in mind?

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Post by ScrungleBlumpkus on Thu Nov 19, 2015 4:52 pm

No wonder I felt like I ahd been posting it twice
somewhere or other there was a miscommunication in my head
I mean Olxympus, the splsh boo collab (blanking on name here), and Inhibitions

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Re: [OTDE]: Give me a track and I'll classify it!

Post by OTDE on Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:07 pm

Believe it or not, all 3 are classicist. They all have a set idea of what "good" xy is and try to push that standard rather than experiment with it.

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Re: [OTDE]: Give me a track and I'll classify it!

Post by Sheldon on Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:50 pm

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Re: [OTDE]: Give me a track and I'll classify it!

Post by Rafael on Sat Nov 21, 2015 10:46 am

Supersonic Motion/Jam?

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Post by Helios Pavonine on Sat Nov 21, 2015 1:08 pm

Eden 2?

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Post by OTDE on Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:53 pm

@Rafael wrote:Supersonic Motion/Jam?

@Helios Pavonine wrote:Eden 2?

In this order:

Classicist with Animist and Formalist tendencies in parts (the drop and the end, respectively)

Classicist. HardCORE. Good gravy.

Animist with Classicist tendencies. The ending and the parts that sync especially. It's especially rare to have an animist quirk, since they don't usually make themselves accessible.

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Post by Fauxfyre on Tue Jan 26, 2016 12:22 am

Angel and Metropolis Run by me.

Phantasmagoric Heart by KW

Breathtaking Silence I think would be up in classisist personally, maybe MMX and Transcendental too. Thoughts?

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Post by OTDE on Sun Mar 27, 2016 2:53 am

Bumping post-mortem.

Angel is pretty clear-cut classicist. Not a lot of messing with anything, except perhaps style arrangement.

Metropolis run is weirdly formalist?? Not something scenery tracks usually do, but it messes with the idea of perspective decently enough.

PH is animist. It's a weird case where a quirk is attempting to relate to people and actually manages to do so.

Those three scenery tracks all have human//relatable elements. It makes them Animist at best and Classicist with Animist tendencies if you're absolutely hankerin' to classify things more conservatively.

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Post by rabid squirrel on Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:35 am

Don't forget the DNA in MMX though! That shit is totally iconoclast Smile

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Post by Sheldon on Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:25 am

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Post by Conundrumer on Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:10 pm

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Post by OTDE on Sun Mar 27, 2016 2:11 pm

@Sheldon wrote:Valence 3
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Classicist x4, Formalist

@Conundrumer wrote:ragdoll

Iconoclast as heck, dude.

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Post by Lukking on Sun Mar 27, 2016 2:12 pm

Assault, Catgroove, Origin

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